- 02-10-2011, 10:45 AM #26
They're going to release an "iPhone 4:Global" this summer with CDMA/GSM technology, slightly bumped specs and the antenna redesign for AT&T users.
If we get a completely redesigned iPhone 5 in June, I will be shocked.
This way they satisfy Verizon customers who upgraded to the 4 and satisfy AT&T with a new iPhone. Also, they really don't need to release the iPhone 5 yet. It won't be LTE, the phone has great specs and is more beautifully made than anything on the market at the moment. Also, they're still selling remarkably well.
I strongly doubt we're getting a completely redesigned iPhone this June, I could be wrong but this seems to be the best move especially from a Marketing and Public Relations stand point. All parties will be satisfied and Apple will get away unscathed.
- 02-10-2011, 11:02 AM #27
We will have to see if Apple and Verizon get together and come up with something that will allow VZW users to upgrade either a lot earlier or at a discounted price. I'd imagine VZW will do something to try to one-up AT&T as usual.
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- 02-10-2011, 12:38 PM #34
Why did Verizon release the Droid 2 6 months after the original Droid?
Why did they then discontinue the original Droid another month after that?
Remember, we with AT&T and every other company around the world didn't just get the iPhone 4, those companies got it in June. Apple runs on a very predictable release schedule (Q1 = new OSX, Mid Year = New iPhone & iOS, Late Year = New iPod/preview for next year's stuff)
That and the iPhone 5 is rumored (by people at Foxconn in China) to already be in production with the dual-mode qualcomm cdma/gsm chip (1 phone release rather than 2)
Apple is still selling an 8GB version of the 3GS, but only the 8GB version. This time next year that will be discontinued as well and they will only have the 4/5 for sale.
- 02-10-2011, 12:40 PM #35
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- 02-10-2011, 12:56 PM #38
Money. Plain and simple.
Take this scenario: Verizon releases the iPhone 4, and there was much rejoicing because finally they could have a great phone on their network (AT&T works great for me, but Verizon did too. I have no complaints either way).
Fast forward 4 months: Everyone on Verizon is happy with their iPhone 4, but Apple holds a press conference saying they're releasing the iPhone 5. The World oohs and Ahhs at the fancy new features and the shiny new look. It will be available, they say, on whatever date. BUT, they say, Verizon won't carry this phone.
As a Verizon customer, even IF you had the iPhone 4 from February, how would that make you feel? To know that every other iPhone user in the World had access to this shiny new piece of technology except you. If it were me, I'd be pissed.
In the end, Verizon will release it because by then all of the friends of people who got the iPhone 4 will have upgrades available and will want one.
Do I have facts to back that up? No news stories, no press releases, just common sense. It's the same thing with the Droid and the Droid 2. It's all about the dollar, plain and simple.
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- 02-10-2011, 01:15 PM #41
Not to get into your catfight (j/k) but I think there are valid reason for both views. But I think they will release one for a couple reasons:
1) To get those customers who didn't upgrade to the iPhone and wanted to hold out.
2) More incentive for AT&T users to switch. Many of them will not switch for the same phone if they are getting good service especially if they are under contract. Their thoughts may change for a new phone and maybe be willing to start with VZW than to extend with AT&T
3) An opportunity to make more money. C.R.E.A.M.
I'd expect them to release one AND offer at least partial discounted prices to those that upgraded to the iPhone 4. Similar to what AT&T and Apple did for those people that upgraded to the 3G a few months before the 3GS was announce. Believe it or not, many general consumers don't pay attention to release schedules. For instance, I told my wife, I'll probably get an iPad 2 when it comes out. Her response was "They coming out with another one already!?". I had a bunch of friends I told not to get iPads for Christmas because another is coming out in a few months. Did they care? Nope. Did they know? Nope.
People don't just stop upgrading devices because another will be coming in a few months. Everyone is well aware now of the iPhone coming out each year and anyone who bought one now should not be upset when the new one is released this summer.
These are just my thoughts about it. Even when the new iPhone is launched they will still be selling iPhone 4s and people will be upgrading to them as people are still buying the 3GS because you can get it cheap. But why would anyone use an upgrade on a 3GS when for a few bucks they could have had a 4? Who knows, but they do.
- 02-10-2011, 01:18 PM #42
Here are my 2 cents. Take it or leave it.
Yes Apple has been releasing a new iPhone every June/July for the last 4 years, but now the game has changed a little. Let's admit it. As we know, the Verizon iPhone has the internals of a true global phone (able to run GSM and CDMA) This means that more then likely Apple will be releasing one version of the phone that will work on ATT and Verizon. It just makes sense manufacturing wise as well. Also, every single year, by this time, info/details are already leaking about the next iPhone. What have we heard about iPhone 5? Nothing. Did Apple all of the sudden plug the leak. No way. This means that the iPhone 5 is coming at a later date. February 2012? Probably not. November/December 2011? That would be my guess. This will be soon enough for ATT people and late enough for Verizon people. Plus Apple will finally get to cash in on the holiday shoppers. All this is assuming that they actually release the iPhone 5. We may just get a 4Gs like with the 3 series. Now if they do release a 4Gs then it's possible that it may come in June/July (but would probably only be for ATT), but that would mean that we won't see a single (ATT and Verizon all in one) iPhone 5 until sometime between Feb and June of 2012.
Take it or leave it.
- 02-10-2011, 01:31 PM #43iPhone Intermediate
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I think fmflex has a point. Typically, if it was to come out in April/May, we'd see some sorta news. Making some room between Verizon and AT&T makes sense to avoid well, anger lol. And right before the holiday season just gives enough time for Verizon folks to settle down a bit. As far as CDMA/GSM as one, possible! BlackBerry's been doin that with their Storm devices ever since.
- 02-10-2011, 01:38 PM #44
- 02-10-2011, 01:47 PM #45
I dont know why people are being so retarded asking for proof the iPhone 5 is coming out this summer. If anybody knows Apple, they keep to schedule. They will not hold up iPhone 5 for the entire world because they released it late for Vzn. Did they do this when Rogers loss exclusivity a year ago or so? No
The next gen iPhone will be coming out this summer. Apple isnt passing on billions and billions of dollars. Its a business. THINK!!!
WWDC will be at the beginning of June as it is every year
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- 02-10-2011, 03:14 PM #50
The next big thing after that is going to be LTE for both AT&T and Verizon... in about 20 months when all of us that got Verizon iPhones on 2 year contracts will be eligible upgrade at promotional rather than full retail pricing.