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    Red face OTA Updates

    When will Apple ever have OTA updates for iOS? Having to physically connect to a PC is a bit out dated? Am i alone in this?
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    It's one of the front running requests im sure...i think apple stated before that their issue with it was security holes, but they cant live in a paranoid world forever, people are already growing tired of a constantly tethered state of being with the iPhone, i can't imagine them staying loyal much longer (those on the fence) if they don't implement some plan for wireless updating.
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    OTA vs tethered on a Blackberry - I prefer tethered. Much faster.

    Really, until data speeds get up to 4G/LTE - I believe it's a better use of bandwidth to go tethered.
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    I personally don't see OTA updates ever really happening on iOS, AT&T and many other carriers internationally would likely have a fit over people downloading 150-200mb OS files on their 3G networks.

    While it's true all of my BlackBerries have the OTA update capability, I've only ever gotten an OTA upgrade once, as the feature is very rarely utilised by the carriers themselves (remember, carriers decide software update released and the channels it's distributed through, not RIM.) which I think speaks a bit of volume to what carriers, in North America at least, think of the technology.
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    Verizon Just let BB OS6 out to compatible devices... lots of people do it OTA. You get a push-notification when its "your turn" so its somewhat controlled...
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    Considering the i4 OS's are around 500 MB's or so, it may be unlikely to see OTA. BB OS's are about 1/5 or less of a iOS software
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    Personally I don't see what the big deal about hooking up the phone to a cable atleast once a day is You would think that it takes three hours for it to happen. I think OTA updates is a nice thing to have but if it's not going to take the 5-10 minutes doing it through iTunes takes will anyone really use it?
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    It's not a big deal. People should be plugged in backing up their phones anyways. Update the phone then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ipheuria View Post
    Personally I don't see what the big deal about hooking up the phone to a cable atleast once a day is You would think that it takes three hours for it to happen. I think OTA updates is a nice thing to have but if it's not going to take the 5-10 minutes doing it through iTunes takes will anyone really use it?
    Yeah it only takes me 10-15 minutes doing it through itunes including downloading the OS and install
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    Apple doesn't patch so likely never. A ~300MB OTA download would not be good.
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    Yeah I just don't see the point of an OTA upgrade anyway. To be that is the type of thing that I would rather do at home. I never once used OTA upgrades when I had my berry and I would not use one even if Apple did ever offer it.
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    I guess because steve jobs says no, you all have to go with it? I see no issue with over the air updates. Perhaps only if they do it in splurts.So many get it now, and so many in a few days.

    Same with wireless syncing. I mean its 2011. Why are we still tethered to ourt devices when we sync. we already have wireless charging mats why the need for a cable to sync our data?
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    How about the tons of crashed blackberries from OTA updates I've seen? Great idea.

    If it ain't broke dont fix it.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGonzales90 View Post
    I guess because steve jobs says no, you all have to go with it? I see no issue with over the air updates. Perhaps only if they do it in splurts.So many get it now, and so many in a few days.

    Same with wireless syncing. I mean its 2011. Why are we still tethered to ourt devices when we sync. we already have wireless charging mats why the need for a cable to sync our data?
    If Steve Jobs says no that means the entire corporate culture, including product development teams and other R&D groups of Apple have rejected the idea, so yes, your 100% correct. No means no. If you take a good look at the issues with doing a slow progressive rollout of OTA to Android, you'd see why this idea would get shot down rather quick, you have droves of users pinging update servers to see if they get software, some users unhappy because they got software they didn't explicitly ask for, other's unhappy because they've still not even gotten the software they want.

    Wireless charging still isn't all it's made out to be either, While solutions like PowerMat do exist, their requirement to use a receiver case is less than desirable, and the device must come in contact with the charge pad, just like the Palm TouchStone solution for Pre/Pixi, so it's not as "wireless" as it's made out to be by marketing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGonzales90 View Post
    I guess because steve jobs says no, you all have to go with it? I see no issue with over the air updates. Perhaps only if they do it in splurts.So many get it now, and so many in a few days.

    Same with wireless syncing. I mean its 2011. Why are we still tethered to ourt devices when we sync. we already have wireless charging mats why the need for a cable to sync our data?
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    Each implementation has it's pros and cons. While OTA updates would be nice, security, and slow transfer of the over 600mb when not everyone is on wifi let alone having a solid 3G signal to transfer that on, it could take DAYS to download.

    It's more than a viable option for full OS updates, now if only Apple would do patches instead of having to do a full re-flash, that would make OTA updates much easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGonzales90 View Post
    I guess because steve jobs says no, you all have to go with it? I see no issue with over the air updates. Perhaps only if they do it in splurts.So many get it now, and so many in a few days.

    Same with wireless syncing. I mean its 2011. Why are we still tethered to ourt devices when we sync. we already have wireless charging mats why the need for a cable to sync our data?
    You see no issue with over the air updates because you've not participated with development of such things, don't have a good graspe the negative aspects you open the phone up to with this kind of syncing, and we can't assume that Apple wants to jump the bandwagon with other developers on other phones just because they wanted to put this "feature" out first...i mean look at microsoft, they beat Apple to the punch with several features that ended up biting them in the *** with viruses and spyware, not to mention inefficient performance of the machines...all the while, Macbooks implemented updates and new features slowly but with a consistent frequency.

    With Microsoft you ended up with thousands of different machines that all have the same list of problems when it comes to security and performance...where as from Apple, you have a group of less than 10 machines that lead the pack in both categories.

    This "jump on tech features first" idea is not what Apple has ever been about, they've always been about making machines that use the good tech features BEST...and when they figure out how to do wireless syncing and over the air updates in a fashion that reflects Apple's reliability standards, THEN we'll see it.
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    I have no issue with tethered updates, although I would guess that apple will eventually allow wireless syncing and updating, it's bound to come eventually. Of course this is all speculation.
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    Wireless updates...probably never. Wireless sync with your home computer seems more likely. I believe in backing up frequently on my iMac and my iPhone. Now, if they had a way to do wireless back up for your iPhone, that would be nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by totalimmortal View Post
    How about the tons of crashed blackberries from OTA updates I've seen? Great idea.

    If it ain't broke dont fix it.....
    I agree. What would happen if you were half way through the UG and dropped signal or power?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pilsbury View Post
    I agree. What would happen if you were half way through the UG and dropped signal or power?
    Yeah, that usually happens to me when I borrow my neighbors Wi-Fi. I just have restart the download again..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyin2low View Post
    Yeah, that usually happens to me when I borrow my neighbors Wi-Fi. I just have restart the download again..
    Do you have any idea what they are talking about ? if you're in the middle of an OTA upgrade and that happens your device is a brick.. a paperweight until you get connected to a computer, I highly doubt you'll see a 500-600mb ota download allowed with a 2GB cap on data.. that's a 25% of it in a month gone in one shot..

    nah

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