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When Android fans say open, they mean open source apps that come from a variety of folks, including the Android Market. In the opinion of some, Apple's approval process is not what they like vs the "openness" of Android. Only one carrier requires usage of the Android Market for apps vs usage of any website that sells/has Android apps, but when Android 3.0, there will be more standardization and requirements placed on devs...at least according to rumors on various Android sites...
I like Android and iPhone, but if people think Apple is closed, then look at Blackberry, half the apps, nowhere near the fun aspect of the iOS and it is more of a "walled" garden in terms of API usage and flexibility.
- 10-15-2010, 11:40 AM #33
but the openess is still nice. If you dont like the email client on an Adroid Phone you have five choices you can switch too. Want swype instead of the standard key board, you can do that. Dont like the included video player? You have many choices. You can also chose to allow your apps to update in the background. Does that mean sacrificing battery life? Yes, but its the users choice. Its a very differnt set up. It really is no longer a question of which is better, its which fits your needs better.
- 10-15-2010, 11:52 AM #34
If you're comparing markets, there's really no argument. Apple wins with the fact that the iTunes market is large, organized, and accessible through both the iPhone and on your Mac/PC through iTunes. Not to mention that multiple people (my wife and I do this) could share the same iTunes account for apps.
Android market (unless it's changed drastically since July), while fast, is not well organized. There are barely any categories, and with the openness of the Market (both a good and bad thing) developers can put in triggers that make their app show up literally anywhere they want it to. Couple that with the fact that there is no way to access the Market from Windows/OSX/Linux and it makes for some frustrating searches. I often gave up unless I knew the exact name of what I was searching for, and even then I had to hunt for it sometimes.
When you talk about the Open Source nature of Android that again can be viewed multiple ways. The Linux community is well established and can do some fantastic things that many people wouldn't even think is possible. That allows for an incredible amount of collaboration and means that new innovations are coming out all the time, rather than on a set release cycle. Google took advantage of this when developing the Android OS; but even they couldn't help keeping some things to themselves to the extent that, for a time at least, all Android code was stripped out of the official Linux kernels because Google refused to share its innovations.
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What bugs me about android is that there is not one device that has all of the great features combined. This one has a nice screen but no camera flash. This one has a nice screen ad camera flash but no front-facing camera. This one has almost everything but pathetic internal storage (SD has a lot of problems people tend to ignore). This one is perfect but you can't make Google the default search engine and Bing is not an equivalent experience.
It goes on and on... iPhone, while it may be the only iOS option, is a very linear product line. Android phones are sold and totally random price points and all seem to be lacking one important thing.
- 10-16-2010, 03:26 PM #41
focus on the next OS version was the UI. On top of that what Google showed off at its I/O was pretty incredible. With Gingerbread expected in December and another major OS release towards the summer of next year, the Android OS of today, which offers many advantages over iOS as is, will be vastly improved. I'm wondering if iOS can keep up.
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- 10-16-2010, 05:08 PM #42
Android is a grid of icons as well aside from the useless always-on widgets... In fact iPhone's UI in terms of the home screen got a lot more complicated in iOS 4. Folders, app switcher, new widgets... It's simple in favour of function, but it is far more beautiful and well-oiled than anything on Android... From the stand point of a UI designer I just don't see how anyone could think that Android comes anywhere close to iOS in usability. Widgets sometimes look cool on a home screen but I know when I had an android phone I never actually used them. I simply ended up opening the apps because the widgets offered so much more limited functionality... Then I simply removed the widgets because they were wasting battery, data, and decreasing performance... I'm fine with the 'grid of icons' on the iPhone.
Some live icons like for clock and weather would be useful, and that's the only reason I'm jailbroken.
- 10-16-2010, 07:48 PM #43
To each his/her own, but to call widgets useless on a smartphone reaks of fanboyism. I have a widget for podcast, weather, facebook/twitter, calendar, music player. Mini widgets to toggle wifi, bluetooth, gps, 4G. Useless? Are you serious? A wealth of information available at a glance, never having to open an app, but i can get to the app easily through the widget. Ability to toggle radios on/off without having to go into settings. Useless?
I can give it up to iOS where it deserves it. the UI is clean and consistent. I never said it wasn't because I'm not a fanboy. Nice iPad sitting next to me and I bought my mom one and my kids iPod touches. The apps are more refined and excellent apps are in more of an abumdance. All I said is that google has stated its focus on UI, and with the way google has been rolling out features and updates, the next year will see Android improvement. Attitudes like yours is why I love Android's massive growth, it keeps the apple fanboys pissed off and speaking out of their butts.
- 10-16-2010, 08:04 PM #44
I'm not a fanboy. I have opinions based on personal experience using both platforms, much like you do. I'll admit that the toggle widgets are useful and I wish those were present in iOS. I forgot about those. I really find other widgets useless though, unless you are trying to drain your battery as quick as possible. Even if apple brought out their own widgets I would be doing my best not to use them (aside from toggles), because I don't find them useful. They don't do enough so I end up just opening the app anyway.
Android's growth is awesome. The way I see it a POS phone running 1.6 is still better than the alternatives at $0, so I think its great that consumers can get in on a smartphone OS no matter what carrier they are on for a tiny amount of money. I don't actually think that it's fair to compare iOS to Android though in terms of market share. Until there are $0 iPhones on every carrier, it's a completely unfair comparison.
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