iPhone 4 Reception Issue Is Not That Bad
Let's look at all of the hardware issues for a comparable flagship phone, shall we?
The funny thing is, Google doesn't even bother to address N1 issues anymore. They have a whole message board dedicated to it, and they used to respond to issues and try to fix them, now they don't give a shvt. How many months has it been since the Nexus One was released!? And they've already abandoned the damn thing.
Also, Google's response to the N1's screen cracking was even more ludicrous than Steve's "don't hold it that way" response. They said the Nexus One simply "doesn't *go* in pockets". What the fvck is that? Does that mean I have to carry the god damn thing in my third hand all the time?
And, what about the fvcking buttons, 75% of the buttons do not work when you press them. You have to hit them in the top 25% or you're not getting anywhere, and let's not forget the screen, showing 30% less pixels than it's supposed to.
When you compare iPhone 4's 1 issue (which may soon be fixed) to these issues, it doesn't seem like such a big effing deal. The only reason it gets so much attention is that ... *Shocker!*... iPhone actually sells.
- 06-30-2010, 09:20 AM #2
- 06-30-2010, 09:25 AM #3
My opionon on this is that yes for those it affects its really annoying and something which should have been picked up before launch, but the truth is it doesnt cause problems for everyone (see the poll on this forum which is almost tied)
In the absence of an "iphone killer" that all these manufactuers keep touting, they have to start trying to destroy anything apple releases and fuss about the unimportant things.
Iphone is pretty well built (if fragile but hey its mostly glass!) but it doesnt fall apart and cut cheese the palm pre
The iphone has a vibrant and accurate other like nexus one and droid are not (and like above have sensitivity issues with buttons)
and the iphone does a lot for its battery life unlike the evo whose battery plumits
- 06-30-2010, 09:45 AM #4
I think the point the OP is trying to make is that all phones have issues, but Apple's issues seem to draw the most attention. Is Apple held to a higher standard? Maybe. If so, it's probably because they are seen as the leader in smartphone innovation so everyone is ready to jump on any perceived chink in their armor. Lately, it seems as though the Android crowd spends way to much time posting on anything related to issues pertaining to Apple.
- 06-30-2010, 09:48 AM #5
I'm coming from a blackberry were I always was able to make a call or use data.. The iPhone 4 doesn't let me do either in some areas. I normally wouldn't care that much but I do get called in for work issues sometimes and if they can't get a hold of me because im holding my phone that's pretty bad. lol
I guess what im saying it the one issue is a big deal for me. I'm usually in an area that has wifi so maybe they should let us make/take calls over wifi. lol
I'm talking about hardware issues. I just find it funny that people babble on and on about this ONE issue which doesn't even effect everyone and can actually be avoided, but when Android phones have many and much more severe issues, nobody will dare mention them. Because Android phones are our saviour from Jobs the dictator? I just don't get why they are exempt from any lasting negative attention. It's like, they have this huge issue, it persists, company which created the hardware does nothing, and a few months later everyone just imagines that the issue doesn't exist.
As another example, HTC's Evo 4G and Incredible both can not be touched in the top half of the screen when they are on a flat surface. HTC has said there will be a fix for this soon, so people act as if the problem doesn't exist.
Exactly my point. Thanks.
That's fair. I just find it ridiculous that people act as if other phones have never had issues before. And even when Steve Jobs has replied to an email saying there is a fix coming soon, people act as if this is something that won't be fixed until iPhone 5.
Last edited by Jellotime91; 06-30-2010 at 09:57 AM.
- 06-30-2010, 10:07 AM #7
We're talking about something that Jobs said was much improved during the iphone 4 announcement. A feat of stellar engineering to place the antenna on the outside.
And now we find out if you hold in left hand, it decreases the signal. And not just a little bit.
That's a problem. And that's why there is a firestorm of criticism. Because Apple bragged about how swell the new antenna was.
Personally i can work around it. But Apple needs to fix it.
The phone's reception actually is greatly improved. Many tech blogs have performed tests, and where a 3GS was receiving 1.5mbps service, the iPhone 4 received 2.5mbps... That's a huge difference, and personally I can't even imagine how they managed to do that.
The other thing is, Steve Jobs has already stated in an email that there is a fix coming soon for the antenna issue (or alluded to one). I've seen the issue in my 3GS on OS4 so I believe it's definitely fixable.
- 06-30-2010, 10:23 AM #9
Apple is attacked because they have the biggest target in the mobile phone market at this time. Any flaw is going to be magnified 100 times because of who they are and what they did to the mobile phone market. I am familiar with the reception issues of the Nexus One, and the way Google handled it is garbage.
Apple needs to be tarred and feathered over this issue. They did something that anyone with a basic understanding of physics knew was going to be an issue. Their secrecy in testing their products came back to bite them in the butt.
Is this new antenna design helping people? The answer overall is yes. For some it has gotten worse and the reception issues do cause issues, but for many, it works fine. They have the signal fluctuation issues, but most of those people still state that they don't drop the call. It has helped me quite a bit with reliability of the calls. I could always tell when I was about to drop a call, even with 5 bars. I don't have that issue anymore.
What should Apple do? All they can do is change the accuracy of the bars. Beyond that, there isn't anything they can do hardware wise without a massive recall or a new design for the i4GS or whatever it's going to be called.
In the end, for me personally, it's a non-issue since it doesn't bother me or affect my voice reliability.
- 06-30-2010, 10:30 AM #10
- 06-30-2010, 10:35 AM #11
totally agree people are hating on it for all the negative articles and when you tell them it has to do with the software they dont understand i use to bash the iphone until i got one and wow it really is so much better then the rest of the competition
- 06-30-2010, 10:35 AM #12
Exactly, my 3GS would have no service when another ATT device had 5 bars, it's like people we can't HAVE it BOTH ways.... the reception on the new iPhone is far greater than it's predecessor, we need to praise that since the call reception is better... look if you take any cell phone and death grip it, or stick it between your ear and shoulder (like most of us do from time to time) how many times iPhone or other device (it's happened to me with BB) have we muffled the signal, lets not tar and feather Apple for what seems to be an OS calibration IF it's appear on a model with an INTERNAL ANTENNA
- 06-30-2010, 10:51 AM #14
- 06-30-2010, 11:03 AM #16
I also think AT&T will be improving their signal in the next few months as Jobs said, so wait it out, there will be some kind of resolve to your issue.
- 06-30-2010, 11:07 AM #18
I'm in a very good signal area. Sometimes I can replicate the issue, other times I can't. I think it just depends on how moist my skin is at the moment and how easily it causes the "short" of the antennas. It's a design "flaw", it's not a manufacturing issue, it's not that some phones don't have the issue. Out of 4 phones I can replicate it on all 4, just not on all 4 at once. Why? See my previous theory.
Steve telling the public "don't hold it that way", sorry, that's not a valid response. This antenna design was an amazing feat of engineering...just don't hold your phone in your left hand...oops.
I love my iPhone 4, it's a great device. Apple is getting more flack for the problem bc they have a crazy large user base. 1.7 million phones it's first weekend? That's NUTS. How many Nexus 1s were sold total? Google searches show the Nexus One selling 200k it's first week. Estimates show that HTC EVO sold 150k it's first weekend.
THAT is why Apple gets more flack, there's more people yelling about the problem(s).
- 06-30-2010, 11:09 AM #19
- 06-30-2010, 11:20 AM #20
Too understand this you need to replace the 5 bars with 10. Not averaging out, but actually adding more bars on top of the 5.
So if you start with 9 bars, you drop to 5. If you start with 5 bars you drop to 1.
Both pones have the issue, just one persons crap signal is another persons best.
That's why I pointed out Google's response that the Nexus One just doesn't go in pockets... I find that response even more ridiculous.
I know that it gets more attention because it's on a wider scale, however I just don't get why people individually recognize this as a bigger issue than the issues that other phones are having. I can avoid covering a tiny sliver on a phone, even if I held it left-handed I could avoid that spot easily. I can't always avoid putting a phone in my pocket, or pressing 75% of the capacitive buttons below the screen. I also can't magically see 800x480 on a screen which won't display the resolution it's supposed to.
Also it's kind of annoying how Google refuses to even address the Nexus One's issues and simply pretend they don't exist.
- 06-30-2010, 11:24 AM #22
- 06-30-2010, 11:35 AM #23
When Toyota had to do a recall for all those cars that had the brake issue people were up in arms because, Toyota, a company rose to success based on the sheer fact that they built quality was not supposed to make mistakes.
While GM/Ford/Chrysler have recalls on a monthly basis, no one expects those cars to be built with quality.
The antenna thing, and how Apple has dealt with it is bull**** plain and simple. They've screwed the consumer and it's pretty disappointing.
- 06-30-2010, 11:36 AM #24
- 06-30-2010, 11:38 AM #25
You'd be surprised how you can try to "avoid" the area and then notice your signal is half of what it usually is. I like my iPhone but I'm not going to say it's not a problem. I like to hold my phone in my left hand, and support it in a cupping manner with my palm. That often has a nasty effect on my signal. To say "just don't do it like that", it's right. To say you can avoid doing it like that, sometimes yes, sometimes no. Sometimes I pick up my phone and wake it and see I have 1 bar when I usually have full bars. It's disheartening, and it most certainly effects calls and data.
At least my case will be here in 2 days and that should help, a bit...