I tried the EVO 4G, and now I'm back...
I was so excited to get the EVO 4G. I went down to Sprint Friday morning and picked one up. Here are my observations and why it's going back today in favor of the iPhone 4th Gen...
1. The music sound quality / volume through the headphones is just not as high as the iPhone 3G or 3GS. I think Apple/Steve must insist on the highest quality sound processors, because Blackberry has a similar problem. The iPhone sound quality is the best.
2. The EVO is to big. Single hand operation is almost impossible. Again, I routinely pick up my phone while at a stoplight to change music. With the EVO, it was really difficult.
3. Android's browsers suck compared to Safari. Enough said, they just blow. The stock one is the worst. I don't know how Google can allow the stock browser to blow so much. And, it is common knowledge to android users that the stock browser blows too. The ones in the Android Marketplace are only marginally better.
4. Sprint sucks. The people calling me said it rang 6 or 7 times before I answered. I only heard it ring twice.
5. Sprint sucks again. Text messages routinely took an hour to get to my phone. Sometimes they would never come at all. I spent 2 hours on the phone with Sprint resetting everything on the network and phone and there was no solution. The guy in tech support said it was probably the tower I was on and not the phone. WHO CARES! IT DOESN'T WORK!!!!
Anyway, I'm sorry Steve Jobs. I'm sorry Rene. I'll never doubt the iPhone again...
- 06-07-2010, 09:40 AM #2
1. While I agree with the music quality of the iPhone, I think the volume for Apple is too low overall.
2. It does seem rather large.
3. I used their browser once, but I thought it worked fine, except for secure authentication to our corporate intranet. It uses default login, which of course fails.
4 and 5. I haven't had a problem with Sprint in the past, but I am sure it happens. Text messaging delays? Bad service? Right, because AT&T never has those issues. Hell this weekend when I arrived in Seattle for my trip, my first call out was dropped.
- 06-07-2010, 10:47 AM #3iPhone Nanite
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1. Considering it came from the engineering behind the iPod, hard to see how it couldn't be superior.
2. I thought bigger was always better? At least that's what my wife says.
3. I agree, Safari has Android beat. Strange because Chrome is by far my favorite desktop browser.
4. Sprint sucks. I used to have them on a Treo prior to my 3G, and could never get signal at work or my apartment. Hell, my apartment was only a few blocks away from their MASSIVE CAMPUS WORLD HEADQUARTERS in Kansas City, and I would constantly have no bars.
5. Did I mention when I cancelled, I got out of the ETF because their map said I should have had signal in all the places I didn't? What's strange is that in the city 30 miles away I lived in prior to that, I got fantastic signal and great EVDO speeds. Oh well.
- 06-07-2010, 12:51 PM #4
Funny, I had Sprint for 8 years and then switched to ATT for the 3GS last June. Well I have an EVO AND an Incredible right now because I am tired of ATT's service dropping calls. AND - I have 2 towers within two miles of my house. Both Sprint and Verizon are much stronger for me than ATT.
Anyway - I can agree the the iPhone has a better UI/interface and is just easy to use. But I had WM phones before so I adapted to Android pretty quickly. I don't really see the big difference you guys see in the browsers - the native one is OK, Dolphin is better and Safari is great, but the Android ones do not suck, IMO. Scrolling, yes, but in reading and interacting with websites, I really don't see any difference in the way I use the browser. And yes, the EVO is just a little too big and heavy. Probably more so for me since I have the smaller and lighter Incredible sitting here beside it. But my iPhone is collecting dust right now!
Really, I am one of those "wish the iPhone was on Verizon" folks now. I would have never considered either one of these devices if I had good call quality.
- 06-07-2010, 08:56 PM #5
Yeah, bad choice I think.
You will pay more with ATT for no reason at all, after all, Sprint has a much larger (and better) 3G network. I will give credit, however, that where ATT 3G works well, it is very fast. The fastest I have tried. Sprint doesn't suck... at all. I think you just had a bad unit. When I had ATT, I thought it was a good service, until I came to Sprint. After that, I said to myself that I would never return to overpay for a worse network (ATT).
For the first time in 3 years, someone actually beat out Apple. The Evo is a better phone. Better cameras, it brought video chat to us already, so I don't know what Apple is ranting about when they say "changes everything." Also, Evo has a more customizable OS, which i really like. I especially love how you can change the way the entire OS looks, and the multiple options of keyboards.
Honestly, the only thing that Apple has over Evo is the processor. Although they are both 1Ghz (i think), Qualcomm does not make a good processor, and I am sure Apple's processor is tons better. Also, the Qualcomm processor does not have a very good GPU built-in, while A4 does. The screen is a good thing too, but I can't really say whether it is actually useful on that little screen (I have 4.3" now). There comes a point where the human eye just can't distinguish resolutions depending on the screen size.
Evo and HTC beat Apple this time. The only thing that would make me buy an iPhone now is the app store. That's it. So basically, I'm not even remotely interested in buying it.
- 06-07-2010, 09:18 PM #6iPhone Beginner
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So ATT won, even thought they are my company's competitor I finally jumped ship to lock in the data plan.
- 06-07-2010, 09:41 PM #7
2. The difference is that FaceTime just works. There's no setup required, no extra charges, no third-party services, and it's an open standard, which any manufacturer can build into their OS and devices for compatibility with iPhone 4. The fact that it's not available on 3G is a good thing, this means that we can use jailbreak apps like 3G un-restrictor and use it for free over 3G.
3. If you really want further customization, you can jailbreak, although iPhone's UI is beautiful and 90 million people really seem to like it. Also, iPhone OS supports many more languages and soft keyboard input methods than Android ever will.
4. You're right about this, the A4 processor is sure to be faster than the Qualcomm Snapdragon, especially because iPhone OS is much more efficient on the same hardware than Android is. See iPhone 3GS vs HTC Hero. Same hardware, insanely different performance.
5. 3.5" is by no means little, and like the OP said, I'd rather be able to use it with one hand, as it is a phone and is intended to be convenient. Also, I'd rather have the IPS panel and Retina Display, as it is much much better for viewing angles and pixel density.
Regarding your last point, that's the whole point of the retina display. Eliminating the visibility of individual pixels for a more clear and crisp picture.
Aside from all of the points back and forth it's really all about opinion. If you like the Evo and feel like it's better for you, fine. I like iPhone 4, and I feel like it's better for me.
As an addition to my original post...
It is pretty hard to quantify my reasons for liking the iPhone better. My 3Gs just feels like an appliance, where the EVO feels like a computer. The EVO really isn't intuitive. It would take awhile for me to get used to.
I would be willing to spend the entire 30 days Sprint gives me to get used to it, but I'm an audio snob and the low audio volume/quality is a dealbreaker for me.
P.S. I just got a text message on my EVO that I sent to myself from my iPhone on Saturday. Awesome service!!!
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- 06-07-2010, 10:55 PM #11
After I posted, we got one in the office today. I played around with it and it's actually not that bad. I can't speak for the service since we haven't activated it. It's rather big, but I actually like the keyboard.
- 06-07-2010, 11:16 PM #12iPhone Nanite
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I dumped Sprint and the Hero for the 3GS about two months ago and have no regrets. The text message lag was absolutely unbearable. I will say that Sprint was better in the voice department - I got no dropped calls - but that's about it.
And for the record the Evo doesn't change my mind one bit. I played around with one the other day, and saw the same typical Android lag when scrolling. It just isn't nearly as smooth or fluid as the iPhone is, and I don't think it ever will be. HTC and Sprint load their phones down with tons of needless crap too, which doesn't help matters. Yeah, I'm sticking with Apple on this one.
- 06-07-2010, 11:44 PM #13
The EVO is TOTALLY bogged down with bloatware. When you start the phone, there are like 3 Sprint crApps running by default with all sorts of other junk running as well; like 15 apps total.
The scrolling is not smooth and it lags bigtime. The 3Gs is sooooo much smoother.
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I totally disagree that the safari browser is superior to android. The Android browser reformats the text no matter how far you zoom in. With the iphone, you zoom in and if the text is still to small you have to zoom in further and then start planning left and right to read. Other than that they are equal in every way.
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- 07-11-2010, 01:03 PM #24
I played with the EVO for a while. The thing is a beast, and I love that about it. BUT I still strongly dislike HTC SENSE UI. I know everyone loves it, I've yet to figure out why. I'm still a fan of Vanilla Android.
Back to the EVO, I would love to have that thing just as a portable media player. As dumb as it sounds, the little kick stand was an amazing idea to me.
- 07-11-2010, 01:49 PM #25
What is the real battery life of the EVO? I have a BackFlip for work & it doesn't even last a day in standby, and that's with the app killer running. My iPhone 4 goes for 6-8 hours with heavy use & my 3GS was 4-5 (3G on, push on, location off).