Gray Powel should annouce the iPhone 4.0 this summer

**Enders** · 04-21-2010, 02:55 AM

I'm totally serious, in what would I think would be perceived as an ultimate act of class to dispel a large majority of his megalomaniacal image ( you all know the ones I'm talking about ); Steve Jobs should have Gray Powel make the announcement alongside him.

Thoughts? Discuss!

**BENGRIMM** · 04-21-2010, 07:38 AM

I like that idea , Apple needs to loosen up , so what if there big secret is out there , look how much buzz it is getting . I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't all planned by Mr Jobs him self .

**ifonline** · 04-21-2010, 08:39 AM

I take it you don't have much experience with the corporate world when it comes to design and manufacturing?

**JustinHorn** · 04-21-2010, 09:07 AM

Although I would love this, it will never happen.

Also, those people that think Apple did this on purpose are just wrong. They would be getting more buzz between now and WWDC with people trying to figure out what it will have. Rumors here and there. Now we know and the story is focusing on is Gizmodo going to get sued? Prison time? Also, now the competition knows what the next gen iPhone will bring a full 2 months before it's released for them to try and start planning on how to one up them.

**applejosh** · 04-21-2010, 09:37 AM

I like it. It won't happen, but I like it!

**Jellotime91** · 04-21-2010, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by Justin

Although I would love this, it will never happen.

Also, those people that think Apple did this on purpose are just wrong. They would be getting more buzz between now and WWDC with people trying to figure out what it will have. Rumors here and there. Now we know and the story is focusing on is Gizmodo going to get sued? Prison time? Also, now the competition knows what the next gen iPhone will bring a full 2 months before it's released for them to try and start planning on how to one up them.

You're right. Apple would've NEVER orchestrated this, it will hurt 3GS sales far too much. But Apple won't have trouble wowing us with the presentation for a few reasons:

1. We don't know all the details of the hardware yet for sure (screen, camera resolution, capacity, processor)
2. Secret software features. Apple always leaves software open for a while and waits until close to the presentation date to choose whether or not to include certain things... I think we'll see Apple really pulling out ALL the stops on the final OS 4.0 release.

**BLiNK** · 04-21-2010, 12:08 PM

i'd rather see the old guy who got his finger ripped off do an iPad commercial

DENVER - A man is missing his new iPad and part of his pinky finger after a robbery at a Denver shopping mall.

Fifty-nine-year-old Bill Jordan says he just purchased Apple's latest must-have item at Cherry Creek Mall on Thursday and was near the parking garage when a thief grabbed the bag tied around Jordan's hand.

He says the bag wouldn't come off and the thief yanked it so hard that it stripped part of Jordan's pinky down to the bone. Doctors later amputated part of the finger.

Jordan had purchased the tablet computer for a friend in Canada. Denver police were still searching for the culprit Tuesday.

**JustinHorn** · 04-21-2010, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by Jellotime91

1. We don't know all the details of the hardware yet for sure (screen, camera resolution, capacity, processor)
2. Secret software features. Apple always leaves software open for a while and waits until close to the presentation date to choose whether or not to include certain things... I think we'll see Apple really pulling out ALL the stops on the final OS 4.0 release.

Yeah, there are still some mysteries left to enjoy.

**Jellotime91** · 04-21-2010, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by Justin

Yeah, there are still some mysteries left to enjoy.

Indeed. I can't wait to see what they do with iChat. OS-wide integration of an IM service would be so much better than any of the third party solutions. I think it will really be something special, and will definitely rival BBM as there is even a desktop login, so you can always be connected to your IM using only one account. Much more efficient.

**Ipheuria** · 04-21-2010, 09:07 PM

If Apple really wanted to use this whole fiasco at launch they should have a bar stool on stage with the phone sitting on it LOL Then Steve can walk out and pick it up call Gray Powell out and ask him if he lost his phone

**Enders** · 04-21-2010, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by Ipheuria

If Apple really wanted to use this whole fiasco at launch they should have a bar stool on stage with the phone sitting on it LOL Then Steve can walk out and pick it up call Gray Powell out and ask him if he lost his phone

This. lol

Making the best of all this would be most beneficial to them. Tons better then being pricks that would sue people involved ( people who would probably not be able to pay whatever ridiculous amount of money that goes for this sort of thing ) into oblivion.

Should totally turn this into an opportunity to convert and show a kind face for the Apple brand.

**Jellotime91** · 04-21-2010, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by Ender

This. lol

Making the best of all this would be most beneficial to them. Tons better then being pricks that would sue people involved ( people who would probably not be able to pay whatever ridiculous amount of money that goes for this sort of thing ) into oblivion.

Should totally turn this into an opportunity to convert and show a kind face for the Apple brand.

It would be very nice. It would also get the actual presentation talked about more than usual. I hope Steve has time sometimes and reads TiPB forums.. LOL

**Ipheuria** · 04-22-2010, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by Jellotime91

It would be very nice. It would also get the actual presentation talked about more than usual. I hope Steve has time sometimes and reads TiPB forums.. LOL

Now that I would pay to see LOL

**JustinHorn** · 04-22-2010, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by Jellotime91

Indeed. I can't wait to see what they do with iChat. OS-wide integration of an IM service would be so much better than any of the third party solutions. I think it will really be something special, and will definitely rival BBM as there is even a desktop login, so you can always be connected to your IM using only one account. Much more efficient.

iChat process disappeared on beta 2, so wonder if it will appear again or if it's been scrapped for 4.0.

Originally Posted by Ipheuria

If Apple really wanted to use this whole fiasco at launch they should have a bar stool on stage with the phone sitting on it LOL Then Steve can walk out and pick it up call Gray Powell out and ask him if he lost his phone

Haha, that would be great!

**LazyStarGazer** · 04-22-2010, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by Jellotime91

You're right. Apple would've NEVER orchestrated this, it will hurt 3GS sales far too much. But Apple won't have trouble wowing us with the presentation for a few reasons:

1. We don't know all the details of the hardware yet for sure (screen, camera resolution, capacity, processor)
2. Secret software features. Apple always leaves software open for a while and waits until close to the presentation date to choose whether or not to include certain things... I think we'll see Apple really pulling out ALL the stops on the final OS 4.0 release.

I hope you're right, and Apple adds a few things they might have otherwise held back, just to compensate for loss of mystery, and to fight specs with features.

**BriDroid** · 04-22-2010, 11:33 AM

Perhaps Steve should sport a Donald Trump hairpiece, sit across the bar counter from Gray Powell, and deliver the "Your fired" line. Heh. Ok, seriously -- I hope they handle Mr. Powell with kid gloves and maybe just punish him with mail room work for a week or so, answering all of the conspiracy mail.

**D-Rock** · 04-22-2010, 12:22 PM

I think Gray Powell should open up the event by welcoming everyone and then have Security throw Gizmodo's asses out. A small revenge but revenge none the less.

**Hellpop** · 04-23-2010, 10:26 AM

I'm going to go on the other end of the spectrum here and say while it would be funny, this guy should sooooo be fired. He gets drunk and loses a highly secret piece of property and everyone seems to think he should get a pass. Consider all the long term planning Apple invests towards each product announcement that his act of negligence has just mucked up. Between the added planning, legal time and other commotion over this, what do you think he has cost the company and its stockholders? Would you trust this guy with your documents or private material? Unless he is some kind of savant, I would boot him in a heartbeat.

**Jellotime91** · 04-23-2010, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by Hellpop

I'm going to go on the other end of the spectrum here and say while it would be funny, this guy should sooooo be fired. He gets drunk and loses a highly secret piece of property and everyone seems to think he should get a pass. Consider all the long term planning Apple invests towards each product announcement that his act of negligence has just mucked up. Between the added planning, legal time and other commotion over this, what do you think he has cost the company and its stockholders? Would you trust this guy with your documents or private material? Unless he is some kind of savant, I would boot him in a heartbeat.

That's true.... I never really thought about it that way. I think, people just don't want anything REALLY bad to happen to him, so they have kind of turned it around and started acting like he deserves to be rewarded or something... Weird.

**JustinHorn** · 04-23-2010, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by Hellpop

what do you think he has cost the company and its stockholders?

Seeing as the stock keeps hitting new all time highs even though the US (and world) economy still sucks, I don't think it's an issue.

**Enders** · 04-23-2010, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Hellpop

I'm going to go on the other end of the spectrum here and say while it would be funny, this guy should sooooo be fired. He gets drunk and loses a highly secret piece of property and everyone seems to think he should get a pass. Consider all the long term planning Apple invests towards each product announcement that his act of negligence has just mucked up. Between the added planning, legal time and other commotion over this, what do you think he has cost the company and its stockholders? Would you trust this guy with your documents or private material? Unless he is some kind of savant, I would boot him in a heartbeat.

I understand your point and in the cold reality of business it makes perfect sense. However, luckily for him any substantial loss of money and time for Apple at this time over this incident would be just Greed. I'm not an economist nor do I have extensive knowledge of the stock market but I know enough to be certain that Apple is doing extremely well, this isn't Palm we're talking about. Apple isn't losing money over this, the press will be there just as strong for the official unveil.

His slip up ended up generating even more buzz and free publicity for Apple. This "my bad" hurt not one, save maybe Steve Jobs pride. He didn't affect any other employee's work, he wasn't the cause of anyone's misfortune or suffering; and he certainly didn't kill or hurt anyone. The shame and embarrassment over this punishment enough, the scope of it will last his life.

I agree that disciplinary action will be required on some form at Apple's discretion but seeking punishment for the sake of some sense vengeance is wrong and pointless. Apple has nothing to gain from firing this guy and we can all be reasonably sure he'll never lose another phone again or other hardware.

Apple doesn't want a bad image, despite it's critics it wants people to like it. People are already watching how this is going to end with a lot of scrutiny and they don't want the poor fella to get the boot. His mistake was human, something everyone can associate with. Apple will just generate discontent by kicking him out, but would gain approval by keeping him on and making the most of it with their star power.

Cheers

**Jellotime91** · 04-23-2010, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by Justin

Seeing as the stock keeps hitting new all time highs even though the US (and world) economy still sucks, I don't think it's an issue.

Dude, we haven't seen the full effect of this yet.
This is going to drastically effect 3GS sales for the majority of this quarter! What's going to happen when an all-time low in iPhone sales figures is reported? That's when the shares are going to drop.

**big9erfan** · 04-23-2010, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by Jellotime91

Dude, we haven't seen the full effect of this yet.
This is going to drastically effect 3GS sales for the majority of this quarter! What's going to happen when an all-time low in iPhone sales figures is reported? That's when the shares are going to drop.

Not I agree with Jello, Jello is on spot with this. Apple COULD now have 2 months of considerably declined iPhone sales b/c people know about a new one around the corner, just "weeks" ( end of 3rd or start of the 4th QTR ) away.

Now, the question comes, how many people know about it and how much it will truly impact sales. My girlfriend hadn't heard word 1 about this till I pointed it out to her, and she's looking at getting an iPhone. I'm not sure HOW big the impact will be, but we won't know until the Q3 sales call.

**Jellotime91** · 04-23-2010, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by big9erfan

Not I agree with Jello, Jello is on spot with this. Apple COULD now have 2 months of considerably declined iPhone sales b/c people know about a new one around the corner, just "weeks" ( end of 3rd or start of the 4th QTR ) away.

Now, the question comes, how many people know about it and how much it will truly impact sales. My girlfriend hadn't heard word 1 about this till I pointed it out to her, and she's looking at getting an iPhone. I'm not sure HOW big the impact will be, but we won't know until the Q3 sales call.

In my experience, quite a few people have heard about it. They don't need to know all the details, but they generally understand that it's an improvement and it's coming soon, so they will wait for it. Not sure exactly what percentage of average consumers really know about it, but it was reported on just about every major news station.

If Apple is able to retain a strong 3rd quarter in 3GS sales regardless of this, Jobs is going to be all smiles come June 22nd.

**JustinHorn** · 04-23-2010, 03:10 PM

I have to disagree. Anyone that is going to really follow this story about the iPhone 4 is going to be nerdy enough to know that a new iPhone is going to come out in June / July. I mean even without this whole leak...my mom knows a new iPhone is coming this summer! It's not rocket science.

Also, I predict a new iPod touch coming in September...I should go play the lotto now