- 08-05-2009, 08:24 AM #26
I disagree. Upgrades are never that dramatic from previous version.
IMO, the processor/ram stays roughly the same (as iphone 3gs) performance wise while they try to tweak better battery life.
OLED screen. Higher resolution. Better camera/hd recording. Storage bump. These alone will have apple fanboys foaming at the mouth.
Tweak to form factor because it needs to look different this time.
Main theme of 4.0 will be multitasking & notifications for this and iphone 3gs. The first couple of iphones (original and 3G) will probably be too slow to handle it. Apple has to be careful here as to not make this too complex for the average iphone user.
Still think too soon for LTE/4G version, but never know.
Last edited by cardfan; 08-05-2009 at 08:29 AM.
- 08-05-2009, 04:17 PM #27
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- 08-05-2009, 06:58 PM #29
Apple has been stubborn on OLED, I highly doubt it will happen. Got that blu-ray in your iMac yet?
It's definitely going to look different this time but I don't see a change in the form factor. I see it still being a slab but this time it will be a different texture. I can see apple making a plastic that is identical to aluminum in look and feel but is fully plastic so that the radios don't have trouble getting through it.
The point you brought up about OS 4.0 is very interesting! If they made it advanced enough, they could do a "Boom!" and announce it for both the iPhone as a revolutionary mobile OS, and for the iTablet (TBA) as a desktop OS if it's really similar enough to Snow Leopard. (Steve: "a mobile OS, a desktop OS, and an iPod OS... repeat x3.. are you getting it? It's all one OS!") I believe Snow Leopard has an altered Kernel and the current iPhone OS is based on OS X Leopard's Kernel soo.. An updated kernel for iPhone OS 4.0 is to be expected as well.
As for 4G/LTE.. They could implement the radios secretly so that when 4G networks are up it can take advantage of them. Knowing apple they wouldn't tell anyone (like they did for iPod touch 2nd gen with Bluetooth chips) until the next year and then everyone would **** start crapping apples with excitement.
- 08-05-2009, 08:54 PM #30
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- 08-12-2009, 07:26 PM #39
The main hardware change I want to see implemented in the new iPhone is a front-facing camera. What I want even more than though is an entire OS overhaul. IMO, the iPhone OS is starting to look and feel extremely dated when compared to the other phones coming out. I'm hoping they move away from the pages filled with apps and give us a user friendly desktop-like experience on the new phone. Without some real changes, WebOS and Android will easily trump the iPhone OS next year.
- 08-12-2009, 07:40 PM #40
- 08-12-2009, 07:40 PM #41
- 08-12-2009, 07:55 PM #42
Not yet they don't, but that's why I said next year they will if Apple doesn't make some changes. I found WebOS to be nothing but a pleasure to use and Android is quite decent as well. They are also taking steps to advance the game by adding Flash. Something we may never see on the iPhone. I'm not saying the current OS is broken in any way, it's just starting to feel like it's past its prime. Noah from Phonedog pretty much nails what I'm trying to say in his latest Dogfight
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- 08-13-2009, 08:18 AM #43
- 08-13-2009, 09:18 AM #44
The OS is OS X, hardly dated. Perhaps you are talking about the UI. I admit that mine is starting to look a little cluttered and sorting of the icons is not easy. I am not sure what you mean by "desktop-like" but if you mean "WM-like," saints preserve us. I like the use of purpose-built apps (65000 and counting) that hide the operating system from me.
Perhaps you mean changes to the API. I do not follow the developers forums and am not aware of the issues here. In any case, if I cannot see them, I do not much care about them.
Perhaps you are talking about multi-tasking. It seems to me that this is much more of a battery issue than an OS issue. The OS clearly has multi-tasking capability already. The issue is that apps in the background suck the life out of the battery. We have seen this with the so-called "push" applications. Battery technology is a major constraint and seems to advance more slowly than the demands put upon it by screens, radios, and processors.
While I appreciate the prod, any assertion that WebOS or Android will "trump" the iPhone OS is, at best, speculative. It is certainly a very high hurdle.
- 08-13-2009, 11:10 AM #45
- 08-13-2009, 11:46 AM #46
Definitely not asking for anything close to WM. I mean optimizations to the core OS and certainly some brand new UI options (nothing forced). I don't even think the hurdle is that high, because there's not too much that the iPhone OS itself does that can't be accomplished on the others. Of course these are just my opinions, not things that Apple absolutely has to do to please the already happy and growing iPhone crowd. It's just that after experiencing the other options over the past few weeks, I can more easily see myself taking the iPod Touch & WebOS/Android device route in the future, rather than just an iPhone. That way I get the user experience I'm looking for, as well as the 65,000+ apps. I'll just need to sew an additional pocket onto my pants .
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- 08-13-2009, 04:34 PM #47
- 08-13-2009, 06:15 PM #48
What more is there really to be said when referring to optimization? I'm not talking about massive kernel work, just improvements to the things controlled by Apple. There is always room for coding improvement. For example, the soft keyboard is not always as responsive as it should be, even on an unjailbroken phone using the built-in applications. Often, I'll find that I type a few words and then I have to wait a couple seconds for the keyboard to catch up with my input. Then there are also the Safari, Mail, and iPod crashes I've experienced. Just little things like that are what I'm referring to.
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- 08-13-2009, 06:30 PM #49
- 08-14-2009, 08:26 AM #50
I think Apple is gonna make us **** ourselves next June. And even though I want it SOOOOOO BADLY... I don't think they are going to give me an HD video-recording, front-facing camera next year.. If they don't come out with something more impressive I can see myself switching to another phone.. That LG BL40 is nice.. I'd just use my iPhone for apps and use the other as a phone :P