- 09-26-2009, 07:52 PM #126iMore Intermediate
- 135 Posts
One other note. I don't think the impact that jailbroken apps have had on non-jailbroken apps can be overstated. More and more you are starting to see jailbroken apps that we're once shunned by apple move from the jailbroken world to the "legit" app world. And not only move to the "legit" app world, but be the cream of the crop in their class. Not only does the polish these apps have from being out in the jailbreak world make them, usually, much better then a itunes store app which just launched, I also think apple has bent (believe it or not), if just slightly, to let these apps in, which most likely would not have happened without the jailbreak world.
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- 09-26-2009, 08:29 PM #127
- 09-28-2009, 03:10 PM #128iPhone Newbie
- 18 Posts
I owned an AT&T Edge iPhone in France, si I had to jailbreak and unsimlock. I bought a 3GS when it was out and I know one thing: I won't get anywhere close to jailbreak anymore. Enough worries when upgrading, no more random freezes, crashes... No reinstall of everything (and a wipe out) whenever you play too much with a poorly developped app...
Well, nothing beats the damn thing working. Not even a "cool" theme.
- 09-28-2009, 03:51 PM #129
- 10-29-2009, 10:11 AM #130
- 11-01-2009, 12:04 PM #131iPhone Nanite
- 6 Posts
Challenge for TiPB Gurus: Fit a square peg BlackBerry User into an iRound hole?
I have a real challenge for you and the TiPB community if you are interested? Being an avid BlackBerry user stranded on AT&T (not changing carriers), my touchscreen urge seems limited to the iPhone, the iPhone or the iPhone. It's a great device, and I recognize that ... but mainly what I use my phone for is Instant Messaging, Emails, Web Browsing, and Telephone.
The iPhone is great for browsing ... although I really need something that supports Flash, so it's not the browser that I really want just yet (fingers crossed), but neither is the one on the newest BlackBerrys, so it would be a while before I could find a browser that meets my needs. So for now, check.
The telephone isn't as reliable as I would like, but it's not the AT&T network, I know that. I used a BlackBerry on AT&T calling my wife's AT&T BlackBerry every day and didn't drop a single call in over 2 years ... so that's what I'm looking for from the iPhone on the AT&T network. I spoke to a knowledgeable AT&T person who explained a way to force the iPhone to always use EDGE for voice communications, so I'm hoping that this will solve the telephone reliability problems. So fingers crossed, hopefully we can say check.
That leaves Email and Instant Messaging, typically where my BlackBerrys shined. As for Email, I'm OK with getting push with a minute delay, that's not a big deal for me. Although, the lack of multitasking will make that a pain, I realize that and can live with it using the iPhone 3GS' push features. Not ideal for me, but managable. I'm seriously considering jailbraking right from the get-go just to have multitasking. Is there any other way to keep my Email (and IM's) multitasking in the background without jailbraking? Hopefully I can live with the extra pain of non-multitasking, but if not, at least I have the jailbraking option, so we'll call this a workaround check.
But I simply need my Instant Messaging to be reliable and ... well you know ... Instant. I receive and send a lot of IM's, and that's the primary use of my phone. I really do not like SMS's, they are clunky and a poor imitation of IM's. I love BBM, but I'm fine with using any other IM program so long as it is reliable and instant. The best solutions I see are maybe Beejive with push notifications, or if that doesn't cut it, then looking for a jailbroken solution. Any input on this or any better ways?
I realize that I am a prototypical BlackBerry user profile. So this is going to be a real test for how well the iPhone and the iPhone community to smooth the edges of this square peg to fit into the iRound hole, but if it can be done, I have faith that the community here at TiPB can help me find it.
Thanks in advance to Navi and the entire TiPB community.
- 02-02-2011, 05:49 PM #132
I'm on a Iphone 4 running 4.2.1 and I use the GPS a LOT..! Current jailbreaks are all tethered AND cost you the GPS function so I've stayed clear. TBH I really like it as it is....with the exception of decent notifications but thats a "live-with-able" flaw...
- 02-02-2011, 07:32 PM #133
- 02-02-2011, 08:03 PM #134
- 02-03-2011, 12:29 AM #135
But this is just one item on a long list of "cons" to jailbreaking.
- 02-03-2011, 05:48 AM #136
We arn't talking about the use of an illegal drug here...or drinking underage...or speeding...this is a FEATURE of the phone, and a completely legal one now, it's fully and completely reversible if the phone is sold, and can be used (as in my case), in a completely legal and moral/ethical manner. In that, i see absolutely no reason why a person would make this kind of comment...making it seem like the basic act of JB'ing ALONE is something a person shouldn't do for any specific reason.
- 02-03-2011, 07:21 AM #137
Even after they get hotspot app or improve things like SMS or lockscreen, you still want to be able to install whatever program you want. This is the basic principle. I don't need a company to approve what software goes on my phone.
In much the same way, i don't need a carrier to restrict what i do (such as not allowing certain apps to work on 3G, or imposing download limits, or charging more to tether using a data already paid for). Just be a dumbpipe and provide the data and voice. If i go over, i'll pay.
Like Locke says "don't tell me what i can't do" :P
- 02-03-2011, 07:24 AM #138
I don't think his reply had anything to do with morality. Two different people read the same comment and understand it two different ways. Your point of view might be from one that is used to defending the act of jailbreaking. When in the Commenters point of view he probably meant that to do so only invites the possibility of running into software problems. Try and be objective. This thread after all is FOR the non jailbreakers and reasons why they dont do it. Not the other way around.
- 02-03-2011, 07:32 AM #139
I personally am grateful that apple has such tight control over their software. I don't have to worry about it as much like with other platforms. That control is what attracted me to apple in the first place. If one does not like this feature( yes I consider apples control a feature) the one does not have to buy it.
- 02-03-2011, 07:58 AM #140
If one can jailbreak and get around this nonsense, then there's no reason to buy something else.
Apple is a company that can do no wrong right now. But they should be careful. Devs don't like this. Many customers don't like it but are willing to put up with it. Now Apple is even going more extreme by requiring devs to use their in-app purchasing or subscriptions system. This is going to bite them later.
- 02-03-2011, 09:20 AM #141
- 02-03-2011, 11:37 AM #142
All i asked for was a list that supports this approach on it, whether you do it or not is obviously your choice, and i'm not trying to be a stale mate on the opinion of whether to jailbreak or not (or we'll use the .25cent word of the day you did and call it pontificating your own), i respect people who don't jailbreak, i just question those who make comments like that in the nature of how this thread was going between those who support JB'ing and those who don't...it's almost impossible to expect a person to take that comment any other way but face value...
Don't be so snippy, join into the "debate", if you have no desire to...move on i guess, i'm just conversing.
- 02-03-2011, 12:06 PM #143
- 02-03-2011, 12:17 PM #144
- 02-03-2011, 03:02 PM #145
- 02-03-2011, 03:17 PM #146
- 02-03-2011, 06:49 PM #147
There is no "at face value" there are always several ways to interpret everything. And when a person explains his answer and one continues to say "but
This is what you said!" that is confrontational which is frowned upon
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- 02-03-2011, 08:55 PM #148
Confrontation is part of being an adult...it was done in a civil manner to continue the conversation he initiated with his "opinion" about jailbreaking. People respond to comments, its how forum communities work, i figured we all kind of knew that by now. Again, it was to raise discussion...and of course there is "at face value", if there weren't, the term wouldn't exist.
Why are we discussing the merits and commonalities of posting on a forum? If he doesn't want to discuss it, it was done (from my last post no less!)...do you want to continue trying to convince me that i was doing something wrong? Take it to a PM then...
- 02-03-2011, 11:07 PM #149
- 02-04-2011, 12:40 AM #150
I have one more thing to say to Sean. You really are a rude person. Your overbearing and pushy. You think that your opinion is not flawed in the least.
Your always arguing with other posters on this forum and you blame all of them, yet the only common thread in these arguments, that I can see, is you.
Well you have won, you've chased an otherwise happy and content poster off of this forum. I can't watch you treat others the way you do and try and justify it by simply putting an "lol" at the end. I am not fooled.
I do not come to this site to argue with you yet that is how it ends up so I'll remove half the problem and bow out. Have a great life dude and keep wallowing in your own crap...cause it's warm and cozy there.
Lol lol lol just joking ha ha
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