ok, so i'm going to be getting another 3g iphone, becuase i just cant take not having one at all. i'm gonna switch between it and my bold whenever i get bored or tired with the other. i've been doing lots of reading about the new 3.0 os thats coming out, and i'm getting kinda confused about something. with my bold, "push" to me means that when i get an email, i get it instantly. but i'm seeing "push" for the iphone to mean something else. i know that you cant run multiple apps on the iphone, but will "push" mean that if i get a facebook notification, and facebook isnt running, that i will get some kind of notification on the icon like on my bold? i hope this makes sense, i'm trying to think of the best way to describe it. thanks and i should be back on an iphone within a few days.
- 06-07-2009, 01:56 PM #2
Yes, facebook will have to update their app for 3.0 to take advantage of that API. When you get a message and the app is closed the message will be pushed from Apple to your phone and you will get a message. There are 3 types of push "alerts" you can select. A number badge on the icon like you see on the phone,mail, SMS app now. A special custom sound that is set by the app. Or a pop-up message (probably with sound) like when you get an SMS preview while using another app.
- 06-07-2009, 06:57 PM #4
The one thing that scares me is the fact that everything is on a server.
What if it crashes one day ? - With all those apps constantly pushing 24/7 365.
Will there be a back up server ? and a back up server to back up THAT back up server ?
- 06-07-2009, 07:12 PM #5
I've wondered as well as to the similarity or difference Apple's push notification system has to other push notification processes. Apple's concept was announced a year ago, and only recently did we publicly hear anything about testing. How well this process will work? Your guess is as good as mine.
- 06-07-2009, 07:59 PM #6
- 06-07-2009, 08:10 PM #7
I don't think this is a single point of failure in the classical sense.
After all, Apple is just making a RELAY SERVER, and the original sources of those push apps still exists. You can still check your mail every half hour. You can still log into the meat market and check your face book page.
The real question is how is apple going to make money with notifications. Somebody has to pay for the datacenter and the bandwidth for all those connections.
Who pays, and how much is it worth to you to get that Email notification that you won the British lottery within 3 seconds as opposed to 15 minute minimum email Polling frequency?
- 06-07-2009, 10:01 PM #8
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- 06-08-2009, 05:15 PM #13
The radios have to wake up every so often to see if the socket has data or has timed out. They can't go into deep sleep and stay there.
Most people do see battery life fall with push mail, especially if they get a lot of mail. It may be offset by the better battery life claimed for the new phone, but on the 3G it could have some measurable effect.
Time will tell.