View Poll Results: Will the next iPhone have flash?
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New iPhone to have flash?
Anyone think the new iPhone(s) will have flash? I'm asking because my 2.0MP iPhone cam takes better pictures than my 3.2MP 8900 and Storm that both have flash. I'm wondering how much better (or worse) will flash make the iPhone.
Here are two pics I took, one was the iPhone and the other was the 8900. Which one do you think is which?
- 04-11-2009, 09:40 PM #2
- 04-11-2009, 10:24 PM #3
- 04-12-2009, 02:05 AM #5
- 04-12-2009, 03:27 AM #6
- 04-12-2009, 05:10 AM #7
- 04-12-2009, 08:51 AM #8
The second photo was intentionally underexposed by the camera because the lens thought the flash would add more light. It compensated for this, but since the flash couldn't reach the distant subject matter, the result was not enough light allowed into the lens to properly expose the cityscape.
The first photo was properly exposed because it didn't detect a flash adding more light.
Last edited by Stevie No-Wonder; 04-12-2009 at 09:33 AM.
- 04-12-2009, 11:29 AM #10
- 04-12-2009, 01:40 PM #11
I have no idea know what the range of a basic cell phone flash is... but I'd guess any subject beyond twenty feet is probably not going to be affected much (but I have no flash to experiment with ). Shooting two identical photos of closer subjects (indoor or outdoor) in a darkened setting would be a far better comparison. But not too dark of a setting, or the iPhone won't stand a chance. :o
I'd be very interested in the outcome.
- 04-12-2009, 01:47 PM #12
- 04-12-2009, 03:37 PM #13
Uh, that photo comparison doesn't make any sense. Even if you had a stand alone camera with a massive flash it would not make any difference in that shot; way to far away. The only thing it would do is reflect of the water and maybe give you a reflection in the water if it was calm.
Can't tell at all which is which device, the flash made no difference. One camera added warm feel to the lights. The top one looks grainy though and like it has no zoom so it seems like the iPhone pic to me.
No flash on any cell phone camera is good for anything other than taking pictures of friends in a dark bar.
- 04-12-2009, 06:16 PM #14
- 04-13-2009, 12:05 AM #16
I understand what you explained, I'm not dumb. I just don't think he was trying to be all professional. It was just a general comparison to add to the thread. They looked differently. If anything, it proved the Bold flash sucks.
- 04-13-2009, 02:27 AM #17
- 04-13-2009, 08:55 AM #18
I hate to sound like a non smartphone user who constantly proclaims "ITS A PHONE!" and doesn't see the need for any other features, but really, I don't feel there is much need for a flash on a camera that is attached to your phone. A camera is a nice feature to have, when you just want a quick pic of something on the go, but when you need a good picture (one with flash and some autofocus, etc.) then you need to use a real camera. For this reason I think we will continue to see a non-flash camera on the back of our iPhones for a long time.
- 04-13-2009, 08:59 AM #19
Don't know what else to tell you. You can read my first post again, but I'm not explaining it again.
Last edited by Stevie No-Wonder; 04-13-2009 at 09:12 AM.
- 04-13-2009, 10:19 AM #20
These two photos say nothing about whether the flash on the Bold sucks or not. I don't care what camera you use, if you use a flash on a subject that's too far away, it'll make it appear too dark.
This is because the camera knows it is using flash and reduces the exposure time since it is expecting the extra light. If the flash is turned off, the camera compensates for the lack of light by extending the exposure time; this is why iPhone photos are often blurry. If the subject being photographed is too far, the flash illuminates what is close by, the exposure time gets reduced, and the subject appears darker than if you were not to use a flash.
- 04-14-2009, 10:03 AM #21
Can anyone see Jobs approving a flash on the iPhone unless it's:
- beautifully designed and recessed into the device.
- a paradigm shift in phone flashes (so powerful, it simulate sunlight).
- been trashed by him on stage first ("no-one want flash on their mobile phone, it's a whole bag of hurt").
- 04-14-2009, 10:05 AM #22
I'd rather the iPhone not have a flash. I've never thought the flash on camera phones was worth anything anyway. My wife's BB Curve takes worse pictures than my iPhone, and the flash usually make her pictures worse still. My experience is that flash on a camera phone is only useful in a small handful of situations, and even then the quality of flash is so poor that the pictures look like crap anyway.
- 04-14-2009, 12:20 PM #23
- 04-14-2009, 12:24 PM #24
- 04-14-2009, 05:57 PM #25