I had a ATT 8525 made by HTC. God I love that phone. I had it for 2 years. It can do more than a iPhone..but it is slow. Internet sucked, no youtube, touch screen wasn't as smooth as a iphone , but I was used to it. When the 3Gs came out and 3.0 OS, the improvements pushed me over the edge and 1 week later..BAM! iphone owner and loving it.Still miss MMS, can wait for that.