- 07-29-2007, 08:13 PM #2
- 07-29-2007, 10:57 PM #3
- 07-30-2007, 01:28 AM #4
I don't think anyone can say, if being truly objective and honest, that Mac OS-X is snake oil to Window's Rogaine.
Say what you want about the iphone (for me, I love it, even though it's incomplete), but when I switched from Windows to Mac in the early 2000's, I was struck by how no reasonable person could possibly argue that windows was better.
There are very few products you come across that are so clearly superior than Mac to Windows. From ease of use to the absence of crashing, there is no honest argument here, although there's always alot of hot air expelled by Windows-supporters.
It was kind of liking stepping out of a Model T and being transported into the future to a 2007 Ferrari.
The iPhone is very similar in that respect; in many ways it is that much better and advanced- it just needs a few additions and a little tweaking.
- 07-30-2007, 05:49 AM #6
- 07-30-2007, 05:56 AM #7
Except for the fact that I can't use on a Mac a few products I really like and use a lot(phones, MP3 players besides iPod of course), and also a few programs, I'd have been over there permanently years ago myself. Too bad many products refuse to be Mac friendly.
But the iPhone really should have had a few more things upon release, seriously.
- 07-30-2007, 05:56 AM #8
Also keep in mind that the MacOS is more of a GUI for a customized build of BSD. It was a really smart move because the underlying efficiency and power of BSD was much more advanced than what they were using previously. Microsoft has been smart to borrow a lot of features and code from BSD and Linux as well. Not anywhere near what Apple did (unfortunately), but a good idea regardless.
- 07-30-2007, 06:15 AM #9
Honestly, I think Mac is a lot cleaner than Windows. I wish we could CHOOSE which of the bloatware Windows includes to install, instead of it already being pre-installed and then you can't seem to get it out of the ROM. It really :censored: me off that about 200MB or so of my hard drive is reserved for stuff I can't use, but I can't remove it from the ROM apparently. The uninstaller seems to be unavailable for certain programs, all MSFT programs, but anything not really from MSFT can be uninstalled even if in the ROM. Hmm...
- 07-30-2007, 06:28 AM #10
- 07-30-2007, 07:15 AM #11
Bill Gates weighs in on the iPhone:
...the center of gravity in the computer industry has dramatically shifted toward software, he said. “Why do you like your iPod, your iPhone, your Xbox 360, your Google Search?” he said. “The real magic sauce is not the parts that we buy for the Xbox, or the parts that Apple buys for iPhones, it’s the software that goes into it.”
- 07-30-2007, 07:27 AM #12
- 07-30-2007, 07:43 AM #13
- 07-30-2007, 07:52 AM #14
MobileOSX is just plain immature.
- 07-30-2007, 07:52 AM #15
More on Bill and iPhone:
Lastly, Gates spent some time on natural user interfaces, which he considers “one of the most revolutionary things going on” and Microsoft apparently will be spending more time on. A “Surface” device was briefly demonstrated with future applications – but in terms of a current success in natural user interfaces, Gates had to point to competitor’s products: Nintendo’s Wii game console as well as Apple’s iPhone.
- 07-30-2007, 07:56 AM #16
- 07-30-2007, 08:00 AM #17
- 07-30-2007, 08:02 AM #18
Second, the center of gravity in the computer industry has dramatically shifted toward software, he said. “Why do you like your iPod, your iPhone, your Xbox 360, your Google Search?” he said. “The real magic sauce is not the parts that we buy for the Xbox, or the parts that Apple buys for iPhones, it’s the software that goes into it.”
- 07-30-2007, 08:10 AM #19
So I think I figured out what you were saying. Correct me if I am wrong, but in response to me saying the software is inadequate, you are saying the software is not just good, its magic, because Bill Gates says so?
Sorry, I decide for myself whats magic or not, and the iPhone ain't it (unless you mean its full of smoke and mirrors of course).
- 07-30-2007, 08:18 AM #20
Sorry, I decide for myself whats magic or not, and the iPhone ain't it.
- 07-30-2007, 08:18 AM #21
- 07-30-2007, 08:19 AM #22
Anyway, rest easy, Surur, it doesn't look like Bill will be getting one:
...he said that he'd like to play around with one, but wouldn't get one to actually use. He's quite happy with the current Windows Mobile offerings
- 07-30-2007, 08:31 AM #23
- 07-30-2007, 08:57 AM #24
This is the iPhone bit:
The most underappreciated trend, Gates said, is the emergence of more natural user interfaces such as speech recognition, touch and vision.
He complimented two competitors' products — the Apple iPhone and Nintendo Wii — for taking advantage of touch and motion-sensing interfaces.
- 07-30-2007, 10:01 AM #25
Umm....we are actually talking about PCs here right? Let's see:
You can. This isn't so much of an issue against Windows as the individual hardware manufacturers that pre-load junk on your computer. If you don't like it, use your Windows installation CDs (of the OS, not the "system restore" CDs) and install from scratch. Voila, clean windows and you can choose exactly what you want on it.
and then you can't seem to get it out of the ROM. It really :censored: me off that about 200MB or so of my hard drive is reserved for stuff I can't use, but I can't remove it from the ROM apparently. The uninstaller seems to be unavailable for certain programs, all MSFT programs, but anything not really from MSFT can be uninstalled even if in the ROM. Hmm...
Again, this doesn't have anything to do with Windows itself, but instead it's a problem with the dirty little tricks the PC builders (HP, Dell, etc) like to do with their computers.