- 07-26-2007, 08:27 PM #26
I've been a Treo user since the 300 (300>600>650>700p), with a bit of Blackberry in between. I've been using the iPhone since it came out. At first, lots of frustrations with some negative transfer (especially w/ the keyboard). Now I feel at home with it-- I can type at least as fast on it and it's less perceived work given you don't push down anything. The touch interface works beautifully with browsing, etc. The screen rez and the the web browser allow me to do things on it I could never do well on the Treo-- e.g., go easily to full scale banking web sites, news sites, etc. Watching movies or shows was never much fun on the Treo, although it was cool as a concept. Here it's a reality. I've thoroughly enjoyed being able to watch a variety of stuff. The fit and finish is by far the best of any cell phone I've ever seen, and you get a lot of screen real estate and power for something that is almost undetectable in my pocket (unlike all my treos). Yes, there are some mind-boggling omissions (e.g. copy & paste, search). But this can (and I am confident will) be fixed w/ a software update. But even with these omissions, it's just so nice using a device that is beautiful, well-designed, functional, easy to use, powerful... and dare I say... fun! I picked up the 700p the other day, and while I had some warm fuzzy nostalgic feelings for it, I could not imagine going back willingly!
- 07-26-2007, 08:33 PM #27
Come on, warm fuzzy nostaligic sounds like a ringing endorsement to me. I thought you were not suppose to have an iPhone for this thread. My big issue is AT&T's service and the price of the plan even even wiithout insurance. Can't give up my $29.56 (Insurance and tax included) Sero plan with unlimited everything.
- 07-26-2007, 08:35 PM #28
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- 07-26-2007, 09:33 PM #33
i will agree (not knowing much about the technical aspect of the equation). but since it cannot be unlocked at this time, it would most probably not be the international travelers first choice of phone devices if he/she were paying for their own calls.
i thought this thread (of yours) was about what "absolutely rocked" about the iPhone? is this an instance of "thread crapping"?
just ribbin' ya
Don't be a ****. (just checking the obscenity filters )
edit: ooo, look, it let me call oalvarez a ****! I've wanted to do that for a loooong time!
Edited edit: that probably wouldn't be good for a kid to see so I censored myself. You can say some pretty nasty stuff here, apparently
- 07-26-2007, 10:24 PM #35
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- 07-27-2007, 01:27 AM #41
But I was wondeing of other people have similar crashes.
For instance there are is a small number of common bugs on the Treo 750 which I have never experienced, on the contorary rather solid operation.
I wondered how th iphone compares as far as how common crashes are.
- 07-27-2007, 01:51 AM #43
- 07-27-2007, 05:30 AM #45
I'm in the UK so I definitely fit into the 'I don't have one category' and will probably never use the rev 0 software. While there are certainly some things I'd like to see change (mostly additions, some of which I'm pretty sure will be added) it seems to me Apple got a lot of the fundamentals right. With an eye firmly on that, here's my list of 10(ish):
1. Simplicity of UI - app launch and task switching - always two buttons.
2. Simplicity of UI - access to most stuff (especially frequently used functions) isn't buried in menus, the contents of which are invisible until the menu is opened - most actions involve tapping a clearly visible on-screen button. There are exceptions where appropriate of course (video is obviously much better full-screen).
3. Speed of the UI - transitions, app launch and using apps - all seem pretty snappy.
4. UI is gorgeous. Launcher and every app look classy. Love all those transitions and screen effects.
5. UI is flexible. Where other devices have physical buttons (including numeric or QWERTY keyboards), the iphone has on-screen buttons. The buttons you need, when you need them.
6. Input - innovative multi-touch, finger-based input. Completely stylus free.
7. UI designed for capacitive touchscreens. Capacitve screens are great (high durability and clarity) but you can't, as I understand it, just throw one onto, say, a Palm OS or WM device. They need to be touched with a conductive object with a reasonably large surface area, like a finger. A stylus won't work. The whole UI has to be designed around finger-based input.
8. Battery life/power management - excellent esp. for audio and video. Engadget got 9 hours video and 29.5 hours music playback. Crucial in a phone that these don't deplete the battery too much.
9. Settings - all gathered together in one place, as they should be (a lesson Nokia definitely needs to learn).
10. iTunes integration. IMO, iTunes does a great job of collecting together multimedia functions (ripping CDs, buying music (and video), downloading podcasts, managing (and playing) your music and video content, transferring and managing iPod/iPhone content etc). Without this integration I need an iPod as well as a phone.
11. Out-of-the-box Mac support.
Like I say, there are certainly things I'd like to see added (3G radio, exposed file system and much improved file handling, more BT profiles (including sync - at least for PIM data), to-dos, better alarm configuration in Calendar, cut and paste, multiple selection of emails for deletion etc, etc) but as a platform, especially for the first generation, it's looking extraordinarily good - IMO
- 07-27-2007, 05:45 AM #46
I play with an iPhone in Cingular store.
There are two things that are awesome about the iPhone:
* absolutely fabulous black level on the screen. Deep, deep, deep black.
* and the snappy "quartz" UI. I am not talking about the interface, which is not far from Palm's. I am talking about the transitional effect. Steve Jobs is the only one who understand tastely done flash sells.
other than that.....
- 07-27-2007, 06:42 AM #47
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- 07-27-2007, 09:11 AM #49
I've had several crashes of the browser. When the browser crashes, it just closes and you're back to the home screen. When you restart the browser, it reloads any pages it had open, and you're back where you were (generally - session cookies go away, so you may need to log in).
I've detected a few situations where I've run into crashes:
1) sometimes when a page contains a massive quantity of something (not necessarily bytes). For example, a page containing a giant table of 1000 thumbnail photos and descriptions. Reloading works fine, so whatever the problem is, it's transient.
3) sometimes if you click on a link to a file type the browser doesn't understand (like an .exe, or .zip for example). I haven't examined this type of crash further.
I have not had the browser crash on me other than during loading one of the types of pages above. That is, it has never crashed while I was just reading something, or navigating around, listening to music, jumping between applications, etc.
Also, not once has my iphone "locked up and needed to be rebooted." Nor has it experienced any sort of "slow down effect" that required a reboot.
The only reason i've ever had to reboot is a bug (mis-feature) in the email application. It caches email server addresses, so if your mail server is dynamically assigned IP addresses, and the address changes, iphone can no longer find the server. Rebooting is an easy fix (killing the email program might work too - haven't tried it).
- 07-27-2007, 10:18 AM #50
IMHO, the iPhone "ups the ante" for everyone else and will hopefully creat ripples of improvements across the board. I mean, look at LG and HTC taking about and introducing "iPhone killers" like the HTC Touch. I personally like the darn thing - it's a beauty - and I am sorry I don't work at Apple any more since every employee is going to get one! But, I am a Sprint guy and I will probably never have one.