- 07-25-2007, 01:54 PM #51
I'm not even sure that makes sense. The iPhone was Apple's attempt to create what they though every phone should be, why would they now take out half of that functionality? Could it happen? Of course, but i'm still not sold on it.
- 07-25-2007, 02:32 PM #52
- 07-25-2007, 02:44 PM #53
I think it's intended to be bait to get people on an iphone for a low cost, then want to upgrade in the future. I also think there's a market of people who want a music/phone but not pay for a data plan (and not use data.) Though this goes directly against what AT&T is trying to do which is upsell data plans.
I dunno, it's just what I read. I don't know if the iPhone is what a phone should be as much as Apple making a phone people will want to pay for. And there must be a whole untappd market of people that won't pay $600 for any phone. So Apple has to create a "low cost" model.
I'm sure we're all wrong anyway, no one knows what Apple is up to except Apple
- 07-25-2007, 09:27 PM #54
- 07-25-2007, 10:14 PM #55
Actually Apple sold 270,000 iPhones in the first 30 hours (weekend). That ain't bad at all. Considering the estimates they missed were only guestimates by analysts with their own agendas. Jobs expects to sell 1 million iPhones by the end of the quarter, which I think they will hit.
- 07-25-2007, 10:32 PM #56
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- 07-26-2007, 11:34 AM #62
AT&T is reporting "Activated" phones.
Apple is reporting "Sold" phones.
At the rate of phones being sold per hour, It's conceivable that a large number of phones were bought but not yet activated within that period of time they're accounting for. For one thing the activation system was messed up for a day or two which could be part of the problem.
Unlike normal phones which are activated by AT&T before you leave the store, people could have bought the iPhone a not yet activated it.
Not that this is necessarily the case, but it seems likely.
- 07-26-2007, 11:43 AM #63
First the iPod (expensive) then the ipod shuffle (Cheap.)
While the shuffle is more than just cheaper, a similar concept goes to it.
If they make an cheaper iPhone with smaller screen, reduced funcitonality and cost, how is that much different from introducing the iPhone shuffle for $99?
The iPod line has various cost models, and I assume Apple is going to milk every penny they can out of the iPhone line.
There is a consumer demographic that will NEVER pay $600 for any phone. Why not create a product to tap the under $600 market as well? Put Motorla's wireless division out of business for good? Get people hooked on iPhone so they want to upgrade at Christmas.
If anything the Playstation 3 at only $100 more than the XBOX 360 is evidence of a psychological price barrier. Then the Wii is flying off of shelves because it's half the price. Reduced feature set, but hey, there are a lot of people that won't pay $500 for a game console.
Of course other factors contribute to the console wars so it's not really the best analogy, but a lot of it does have to do with prices.
I used to work at TiVo, we launched the Series 3 at $700 or so. We knew there was a very small market for that and had to get the $300 or lower HD box with reduced feature set (and cost reduction) out ASAP to hit mass market. The series 3 would have been cheaper except it was so dang expensive to build we couldn't.
- 07-26-2007, 11:57 AM #64
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- 07-26-2007, 02:12 PM #67
(I have no idea what percentage Apple gets, but whatever it is, it's gravey on the original sale.)
- 07-26-2007, 02:14 PM #68
- 07-26-2007, 02:20 PM #69
From the Street.com (treat as "rumor")
People close to the companies tell TheStreet.com that AT&T is paying Apple a bounty of between $150 and $200 per phone -- plus $9 a month per phone over the life of the typical two-year customer contract.
That's $416 per iPhone that AT&T pays to Apple, if true. Say 200,000 phones sold so far = $83 million?
- 07-26-2007, 02:23 PM #70
- 08-12-2007, 10:52 AM #71
Had to give this thread a bump...
Saw my 4th iPhone in the wild yesterday in the heart of Appleville.
Hadn't seen one in a while...was getting worried about the sales forecast for Sept. But now that I've seen another, all is well.
The back to school crowd will save the day.
- 08-12-2007, 11:32 AM #72
Back to school crowd? So far I've only seen adults with iPhones, which is as it should be IMO. There's no way I'd give that to a kid! Look what they do with regular cell phones(or worse, cars) and parents are going to buy them this???
P.S. I suspect your statement was a little tongue in cheek, but still I really wouldn't like to see lots of kids with an iPhone. The breakage, abuse and theft possibilities scare me. JMO though.
- 08-12-2007, 11:37 AM #73
- 08-12-2007, 11:44 AM #74
Tongue was firmly planted in cheek, ala Selma Blair and Sarah Michelle Gellar.
While I agree that kids are not the target demographic, never underestimate the culture of entitlement that today's teens (and young college students) live in. Their parents give them pretty much whatever they want.
- 08-12-2007, 11:46 AM #75
Where are you cglaguna? In CA?
How are the kids taking care of these? It's sturdy and fragile at the same time. I know 2 adults who busted their screens(not on iPhone) just having them in their pocket and forgetting to take them out when I think sitting or standing up, and apparently the screens bent somehow and broke. People dropping phones on sidewalks is not uncommon also.