- 07-24-2007, 10:04 PM #26
- 07-24-2007, 10:07 PM #27
- 07-24-2007, 11:49 PM #28
And I disagree, I don't see any justification for re-upping a contract by simply changing how many minutes you buy. But if changing to new type plan to take advantage of new features (unlimited M2M, etc. or in the case of universal, unlimited calls to AT&T landline) then that would be considered a new promotional plan and a contract seems justified.
I read on a Yahoo group someone got slapped with a new contract for removing an add-on line from her family plan (the primary holder). That makes no sense at all. It does for the line that was being moved to a single plan, but the family holder shouldn't have to.
Sorry this is off-topic.
- 07-24-2007, 11:59 PM #29
- 07-25-2007, 12:09 AM #30
Another one of these threads?
The phone had a lot of hype, certainly, but we ARE talking about a 5 or 600.00 phone that is only available on one carrier.
I'm not saying 170k is a lot, I', saying that WHO KNOWS if that's a lot right now? Does anyone know how many 700w's sold the first 2 days? More specifically, in the first 30 hours?
Despite some post here to the contrary, Palm did hype one of their phones. The 700w. Hawkins and Gates at that press conference announcing "A Treo with Windows Mobile" and advertisements everywhere before it came out. Was it hyped as much as the iPhone? Of course not. But that comparison would be great, considering Treo's were already an established product and so was windows mobile.
- 07-25-2007, 01:50 AM #31
I agree with some of the others in this post, the iphone is a lot more than about 500,000 sales... this phone will push others to (hopefully MS and Palm) to think more about the UI than before. Maybe they -- or others -- will attempt to follow HTC's lead. I guess you could argue that HTC follow apple, but (I guess) you could have to know how long htc had their product in development....
Anyway, the iphone it is not a failure by any means. Plus you still have people, like my two cousins, who are waiting until their current contracts are up before making the leap, or even those waiting on iphone ver. 2 before jumping over. I do not want one due to ATT (not very good here, IMO), but many others do....
- 07-25-2007, 03:15 AM #32
- 07-25-2007, 03:59 AM #33
Given that 140 Apple stores where still selling phones Sunday to Thursday and the 146,000 number is activations not sales, it seems only only reasonable to conclude that the initial shipment to stores was a fair bit more than 150,000. There will have been web sales too of course and none of those would appear in these early activation numbers (I don't think they shipped until the second week of July).
- 07-25-2007, 04:02 AM #34
- 07-25-2007, 08:17 AM #35
- 07-25-2007, 08:25 AM #36
The start menu is just a task switcher, with a MRU used list. I really dont get the issues people have with it. Its greatest sin is probably that its stylus-centric, but using shortcuts it still works rather well with a keyboard.
- 07-25-2007, 08:50 AM #37
Why would you get rid of the start menu? How would you get to your programs, then? Don't tell me that everyone would have to use one of those programs where it places a bunch of icons on your Today screen, because not everyone likes those, me included.
The top toolbar holds the information for your phone. Without it, there's no way to tell how much battery you have left, what your signal level is, or what the time is. Again, don't tell me about one of those programs that puts these things on your Today screen.
The softkey stuff on the bottom is also essential, not so much for the Today screen, but for other programs. 3rd party programs are all different, and the softkey functions a different way for every one of them. I know there's been many times when I think I'm clicking continue and instead end up clicking cancel or back or something.
- 07-25-2007, 09:32 AM #38
- 07-25-2007, 09:43 AM #39
You put your 7 favourite apps on the start menu, and the 5 Most Recently Used contains the other ones. This way you avoid scrolling if you use the Zip utility a lot.
- 07-25-2007, 10:05 AM #40
- 07-25-2007, 10:12 AM #41
- 07-25-2007, 10:17 AM #42
EDIT. Here's the quote from Ed:
With Photon, Microsoft's developers have made great improvements in ease of use. Imagine being able to control every facet of your device from one screen, with one hand. You'll be able to do that with Photon.
- 07-25-2007, 10:22 AM #43
I dont know how WM treo users can stand the top and bottom bar on a 240x240 device.
- 07-25-2007, 10:29 AM #44
- 07-25-2007, 11:56 AM #45
I think the system works pretty well. I think the biggest problem really is the the MRU gets cleared after a soft reset, leading one to have to go to the programs sub-menu, but if you dont reset a lot the system is pretty efficient.
- 07-25-2007, 12:07 PM #46
- 07-25-2007, 12:42 PM #47
- 07-25-2007, 12:44 PM #48
I agree with surur. It saves time to just go through the programs in the start menu. I know that I use Google Maps, IE, Solitare, Bubble Breaker, and a couple of other things a lot more than I use some of the other programs, so it's a lot easier for me to hit the start button and scroll down to those programs. I only go to the main programs list when I need to use something like Word or something. Honestly I don't like the POS Home screen. I like the Today screen a lot better because it doesn't look so cluttered with all these icons.
- 07-25-2007, 12:46 PM #49
- 07-25-2007, 01:07 PM #50
Just what I thin you're describing. For that matter I don't think it's really a "nano" but I'm sure it'd be smaller since it doesn't need the giant screen.