- 08-02-2007, 10:32 AM #2226
He wasn't comparing it to smartphones, he was comparing the keyboards. Nothing more.
- 08-02-2007, 10:37 AM #2227
But yet, 3 business phones and no other multi-media phones like the Nokia N73/N91 and the Sony Ericsson W850i/W900i. I know what I'm looking at, I'm not that blind!! They are using smartphones for a reason in their comparisons!!
P.S. I just checked and the N95 is also classified as a Symbian smartphone. You can continue to say Apple isn't trying to compare iPhone to smartphones, but visual evidence says otherwise, regardless of what kind of spin you put on it!
- 08-02-2007, 10:49 AM #2228
It's not long in the tooth at all. It's a legit item, because a lot of peopl got iPhone to replace their Treo/BB/etc. device, only to find it wasnt quite there yet.
- 08-02-2007, 10:51 AM #2229
- 08-02-2007, 10:52 AM #2230
Apple called it 'competitive data' so doesn't that mean Apple sees these devices as competitors? And wouldn't that mean if you are comparing features and functionality, all things are fair game at that point? Point out the iPhone's strengths and ignore the things it may be weaker at, but say you aren't comparing the features it isn't good at because it isn't meant to compete with them seems like you are trying to have it both ways.
- 08-02-2007, 10:55 AM #2231
- 08-02-2007, 11:03 AM #2232
Still said they wanted to leapfrog and make something 5 years ahead.
While they didn't exactly say "replace your smartphone with this", they made comparisons.
Safari is nice (on Wifi), although I think the gesture intesiveness detracts from it somewhat.
- 08-02-2007, 11:04 AM #2233
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- 08-02-2007, 11:23 AM #2238
If it's the best keyboard, that's fine. I am curious which devices you have used to make the comparison.
I have used an iPhone extensively; I'm not sure what sites you visit, but "full" sites require quite a bit of "zooming and moving".
If it works great for you, that's great. I just notice that the plane/angle at which you hold the iPhone affects how the accelerometer works. Unless you are at the proper angle, you can get into "flip-flop" land, where you are turning the iPhone like one of those snow globes to get the orientation to switch.
- 08-02-2007, 11:31 AM #2239
I'm basing it on comments on this and other forums. Some people did this (like you; replace smartphone with iPhone).
Oh, and if you want another Apple Store visit story....was there yesterday....plenty of iPhones on display. One person getting the feature review from staff. Spent nearly 30 min with her, very helpful. It was all good until she said, I need to go to go overseas next month, and they explained she would need to use ATT intl roaming. You could almost hear her face sag (because she was used to swapping SIMs out).
A one more person (kid) came into to check out iPhone. This was over a 45 minute period. High traffic store.
I really hope they are selling more online or at ATT stores.
- 08-02-2007, 11:34 AM #2240
Don't switch subject. It's not about email not being personal and business. It's about comparing to Blackberry, which, by and large is, used for business (and personal) email.
You compared to a BB, you are coming email, specifically business email.
- 08-02-2007, 11:35 AM #2241
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- 08-02-2007, 11:50 AM #2246
Apple wants EVERYONE to buy this phone. For both business and pleasure. They used the smartphone comparisons for those who actually check and compare specs online. And the cool factor for everyone else, like on the TV ads. The smartphone comparisons are also hints that iPhone is better than the specs of a smartphone.
- 08-02-2007, 11:54 AM #2248
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