- 07-19-2007, 02:01 PM #1077
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- 07-19-2007, 02:41 PM #1090
Device must make calls (treo yes / iPhone yes)
Device must use BT headset (treo yes / iPhone yes)
Device must do POP e-mail (treo yes / iPhone yes)
Device must do web access (treo yes / iPhone yes)
Device must do voice dial (treo yes / iPhone no)
Device must sync with puter (treo yes / iPhone yes)
Third party Apps (treo yes / iPhone no)
Device must not make me jump thru hoops or use 2h to navigate(pos treo yes / wm treo no / iPhone insufficient experience)
Tho the last is getting less and less important. Most of my 3rd party apps are utilities to make the Treo work acceptably. Another bunch are utilities for which I have not investigated whether there is an iPhone equivalent function like an alarm that wakes me up or turning the phone on automatically. I can't recall the last time I opened up anything outside those categories which has me questioning how important this will be in the future.
I had some games on the treo but playing on the teeny screen got old real quick. I tried a few e-books but that also got old. Overzealous stewardesses and comfort have me back on the ole paper variety. And just because one can do something on a handheld, even tho its cool, doesn't mean it's the best way to do something. I used to respond to a lot of e-mails on my Treo, over time I found it just too damn cumbersome to thumbtype. Most of my e-mails are therefore answered by a phone call. Most of the rest will wait till I have a full size KB and screen. So yes I had a lot of reasons for convincing myself I "needed" a Treo.....and while some remain valid, some do not.
Things I definitely don't care about
WiFi - won't use
Music / video - won't use
Ringtones won't use - don't wanna be in room with anyone who does
- 07-19-2007, 02:42 PM #1091
I just asked my son for input
His consumer oriented list is also short.....tho he wants to add numbers. Like me has the $20 AT&T MediaMax bundle (unlimited data , 200 text messages, MMS on per use basis disabled).
Device must make calls (treo 8 / iPhone 8)
Device must use BT headset (treo 7 / iPhone 6)
Device must do POP e-mail (treo 6 / iPhone 9)
Device must do web access (treo 4 / iPhone 9)
Device must sync with puter (treo 8 / iPhone 9)
Device must not require him to refer to manual (treo 4 / iPhone 9)
Device must do text messaging (treo 6 / iPhone 7)
Device must require little "fiddling time" (Treo 3 / iPhone 9)
Device must play music / video (Treo 5 / iPhone 6)
Device musts have adequate music storage (Treo 8 / iPhone 8)
Device must sync w/ iTunes (Treo 0 / iPhone 9)
Device must be GSM (Treo 650 / iPhone)
- 07-19-2007, 02:59 PM #1093
example: HobbesisReal needs his/her device to have certain capabilities. He/She uses every functional aspect of the device and adds more to it to meet his/her working needs. So he/she chooses a ppc device, in this case a Mogul...Great!
i and others might not care for that device no matter what functionality it offers due to its slideout keyboard. "we" choose not to buy that device and we choose some other......Great!
some choose the iPhone as their choice and not many understand why you and some of your cronies can't understand that.
it's getting beyond silly and you know it.
- 07-19-2007, 03:01 PM #1094
- 07-19-2007, 03:05 PM #1095
The 'over simplification' relates to the fact that my current smartphone isn't just a phone plus a PDA anymore. That said, the iPhone covers *nearly* everything I need. Notable exceptions:
1) PIM needs a bit of work. Especially adding to-dos (waiting for Leopard?)
2) Personal navigation. Can't live without TomTom now, but I figure iPhone plus PND is still less devices than E61 plus iPod plus BT GPS. Also, the PND can mostly live in the car so I'm only carrying one device most of the time.
Obviously in an E61 vs iPhone comparison there are plusses and minuses on both sides, but the iPod functionality is really the difference that's most important to me personally. Music on the E61 is simply unacceptable (poor quality sound, bad UI, stupid 'pop port' adapter, no iTunes integration, etc).
3G is pretty much de rigueur of course, but that will come (within 12 months I should think).
- 07-19-2007, 03:05 PM #1096
- 07-19-2007, 03:08 PM #1097
I hear you, Jack....i've said just about everything you have at some earlier point in time, responses were all the same. It all goes back to "Jobs saying it is a smartphone" (as they like to say) and that's why they're here spouting the ridiculousness that they do.
Throw logic out the window when discussing this stuff with some of these folk. Do like I did....leave for a few days and you'll notice that they have nothing to say.
I think you guys have wandered way of the point of the thread, which is to show people the iPhone ain't all that. It has bugs, and it has awkward interfaces in many areas, and many people buy one and discover it cant do what they expect it to do.
I really dont know what you guys are debating here.
- 07-19-2007, 03:13 PM #1099