- 07-16-2007, 05:18 PM #876
- 07-16-2007, 05:20 PM #877
- 07-16-2007, 05:22 PM #878
- 07-16-2007, 05:24 PM #879
um....so the answer is no, there is no supporting evidence.
And what kind of logic is that statement "one can usually judge the validity of "unnamed sources" by the outcry of counter claims"?
That is rediculous.
I'm not saying they didn't sell a lot - I just expect something to back it up from a reputbale source.
- 07-16-2007, 05:25 PM #880
- 07-16-2007, 06:39 PM #881
Seriously, despite the utter disintegration of this thread into sheer madness, I feel inclined to post the following link from Microsoft Watch, wherein the knight Quixote surveys the dry AndaLusian landscape and locates a steed to replace the fine mount, Rocinante, and declares the poweful steed "iPhone":
- 07-16-2007, 06:56 PM #882
- 07-16-2007, 07:02 PM #883
I have refrained in the main from posting blog articles, as I dont see them as real users, but rather people trying to grandstand. I have a few however that may tickle your fancy. Just ask.
- 07-17-2007, 05:25 AM #885
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- 07-17-2007, 08:42 AM #887
- 07-17-2007, 10:12 AM #888
If you meant ridiculous, it is by no means so. Look at every initial announcement by Engadget and the like with regard to a product release and it's based upon a leak from an anonymous someone. Many are met with formal announcements to the contrary. When there's no fanfare against, they are right far more often than they are wrong. So, history does not support your position. And walk into an AT&T store, my son has been stopping in occasionally waiting for one to show up. He was told 1.25 million activations so far....not counting on line orders waiting to ship.
- 07-17-2007, 10:18 AM #889
"That said, I've also changed my charging habits. I run the batter done to zero, as I would with an iPod, before recharging it in the hope of extending the battery life."
That matches the instructions in my laptop manual only the laptop calls for the procedure to be done only monthly.
- 07-17-2007, 10:36 AM #890
The statement that the iPhone can not have 3rd party apps is not true. It will be able to run 3rd party Web 2.0 based apps. Will that is still a restriction, I find that most of the programs I have on my Treo can now be replaced by even simple web pages.
TipPro on the Treo replaced by http://www.onlineconversion.com/tip_calculator.htm
Directory Assistant Replaced by:
www.yellowpages.com / www.white pages.com
While no one is saying the Web 2.0 programs will have the breadth and depth of what we have on the Treo, lets remember that the market for Treos is only 500,000 a year. Four outta five peeps using phones in my family won't take a Treo or anything like it for free simply because it's "way more than they need or want". There's just not that many programs that a regular joe / jane would want or need that can't be replaced by Web 2.0
- 07-17-2007, 10:58 AM #891
The absence of contrary claims does not make something true.
If 1.25M iPhones have been activated, not including those ordered online - meaning that 1.25M were bought through stores - I'd say there is something afoot....being told by a wonk at AT&T Store is hardly ironclad.
I'm not saying that thay have not sold that many, but that I find a.) the lack of iPhones in the wild, and b.) the lack of confirmed statements from Apple (who is not shy with their numbers) makes me want more evidence.
- 07-17-2007, 11:07 AM #892
- 07-17-2007, 11:08 AM #893
3rd party apps have long been understood to be client apps, utilizing a published SDK (or API).
I'm not saying web apps aren't importants, and will not grow.
But, there are certain apps on mobile devices that should be local, as it addresses the connectionless nature of the web.
- Email (unless you used web based mail exclusively)
- Chat (Sorry, Meebo and the others won't cut it)
- PIMs (Agendus and the like)
- Document viewers/editors
It's the combination of the client app and the web that makes things powerful on the device.
Unless you can have guaranteed connections and high speeds, the "web as platform" paradign only goes so far.
- 07-17-2007, 11:12 AM #894
- 07-17-2007, 11:34 AM #895
Are you guys seriously trying to argue the whole "any application I run on my Treo can be run off of the web" thing? We've been through this already, and I'm too tired to explain it again. Just read the thread. There's plenty that we can do on a treo that could never be reproduced in a web app.
- 07-17-2007, 11:38 AM #896
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- 07-17-2007, 11:46 AM #900