- 07-08-2007, 10:39 AM #602
Why doesn't Jobs compare the iPhone with phones like this one?
It's an entertainment device with a keyboard. Or how about a T-Mobile Sidekick?
These are the kinds of phones the iPhone's features might be able to compete against. Instead, Jobs picks out the top selling Smartphones on the market and chooses to compare his phone's features to a select subset of Smartphone features. Disingenuous certainly - but even more likely a direct attack on the Smartphone market. He's clearly chosen his targeted competition - high end Smartphones - because the iPhone can't compete against the cheap feature phones on the market - not at $600 per copy and a locked-in, 2-year, $60/mo plan.
- 07-08-2007, 10:54 AM #603
- 07-08-2007, 02:10 PM #604
And you're absolutely right. He's merely talking about what's wrong with smartphones today with the limitation of they static keyboard (if I may so paraphrase) and how a virtual keyboard is the best solution.
I think what's genius about the iPhone is that when you take a small keyboard + small screen, and put it next to a big beautiful screen, people will always pick the bit fancy screen. I see this all of the time with the AT&T 8525, people talk about how 320x240 is so much better than Treo's crappy 240x240. People hold screen real estate high in the priority list. Yet there's a segment of people that chose the inferior (in many ways) Treo 750 for the convenience and usability of that keyboard (and software tweaks) because that big screen really isn't necessary and don't want to deal with an extra step to the keyboard.
Apple figured this out and ran with it. Regardless of how good the software is, they have the one element that people want most, a big multi use screen. People love digital cameras and pictures. And more than that they love sharing those pictures (on a big fancy screen.)
Now when someone stops to think of it rationally, it's a lot easier to deal with a static keyboard for making calls and text messaging. But people don't necessarily shop rationally, at least not the mass consumer market.
And they'll sacrifice one thing to gain another. And obviously more people would like to deal with learning a bitmap keyboard than have a static button keypad. It's all about priorities.
Even Palm is talking about getting rid of the keyboard. They want to do it so you'll have to carry a Foleo, which is the wrong way to go about it.
Again, I'll skip on the $600 iPhone 1. I'm anxious to see what future models provide.
- 07-08-2007, 02:30 PM #605
- 07-08-2007, 02:36 PM #606
Please post all iPhone related items to the Phonedifferent forums.
In short, I would ask that this thread remains on the TC side, as its too negative for the embryonic IPhone forum.
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- 07-08-2007, 04:37 PM #611
Best phone ever made was by Western Electric. It was so good everyone had one mounted on their kitchen wall. You couldn't even buy one. It was rented monthly by your service provider AT&T. I'm sure it had 99% of the marketand if you still have one I bet it would work. 35 years and not a single crash or reset. And just like the iPhone, it didn't do much but what it did it did well.
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- 07-09-2007, 12:49 AM #625
It's actually true that I've been on here for years. I used to post extensively in the treo 650 forums, and occasionally in the chatter forum, but it's been at least a year since I posted prior to last month. I lost interest when everything that could be said about the 650 had already been said, and I moved over to marc's own site for chatter discussions.
Though I didn't request a new account last month (i don't think), so I have no idea what is going on with the date. Maybe I did - I don't see a "welcome" email in my gmail archives, so beat's me.