- 08-28-2007, 04:32 PM #2951
As for LLVM, you seem to be confusing code and data. We are not talking about what part of the application is in memory. We are talking (primarily) about what part of the application's DATA is in memory.
- 08-28-2007, 04:35 PM #2953
I stopped consciously thinking about after about a week, and now I can just tap away like a madman.
- 08-28-2007, 04:44 PM #2954
And any on-chip memory would have to be cache (particularly since otherwise there is no point added the 128MB external memory).
Archie, as usual, makes no sense, but his pedantic tone is at least amusing.
- 08-28-2007, 06:21 PM #2955
Diva, curious as to what you think of the user experience up to now, especially that of the internet and media. Do you like its simplicity? Do you find it refreshing? We all know that it has omissions (deleting a single call, being able to attach a photo via email, MMS, etc) so I'm really asking about how you find the actual user experience to be. Easy, hard, frustrating, enjoyable?
Thanks in advance!
- 08-28-2007, 06:57 PM #2956
Archie's back from the dead and ready to party like it's 1994.
It's not surprising his comments are false or mistaken...remeber, he claimed wi-fi and bluetooth couldn't work together on the chipset used by Treos (a completely wrong statement).
He loves spouting LLVM like it's the second coming of Jesus, while he has no understanding of code, data, apis, sdk, and other technical items.
Getting your info from podcasts is almost the same as sniffing glue and inventing the news yourself.
- 08-28-2007, 07:11 PM #2957
I just took a look at the LLVM website, and it appears to be merely code optimization of the sort used by Transmeta. Presumably one optimizes for speed, not memory, using it, though one could presumably not load code that can't execute (shouldn't be much of that.) When I've seen these things in the past, they actually increase memory usage. For example, typically they do things like eliminate conditional branches by duplicating code, etc.
I'm admittedly not an expert on LLVM or what Apple may or may not be doing with it, however.
- 08-28-2007, 07:46 PM #2958
- 08-28-2007, 07:52 PM #2959
- 08-28-2007, 08:11 PM #2960
So I guess to equate things:
(1) How much more would an unlocked iPhone cost than currently offered?
(2) How much does a locked GSM Treo cost with a new contract?
Obviously we can't answer the first, but we could the second, and I bet it would be significantly cheaper with a Treo (plus, couldn't you unlock any GSM treo for a small fee?)
Re: the software for the iPhone. Lets be honest, you don't spend any money on it because you can't. But no one here can honestly tell me that if the iPhone was not sandboxed, you would not buy applications as they became available? No games? No IM client? Not a better PIM?
It seems wherever there is an open OS, there are plenty of developers and programs to be made.
(data costs are obviously dependent on the carrier, so that's hit and miss with who you prefer. )
- 08-28-2007, 08:51 PM #2961
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- 08-28-2007, 09:07 PM #2963
But except for the screen and browser, many of the good Sony Ericssons and Nokias do most of what the iPhone does and more. For $300-$600 UNLOCKED. And you can use the same data plan as the iPhone since most don't qualify as smartphones under ATT's definition.
- 08-28-2007, 09:19 PM #2964
- 08-28-2007, 09:25 PM #2965
- 08-28-2007, 10:07 PM #2966
Business use is iffy. But I haven't given my new number out to everyone yet. I do wish there was a call filter of some type. And the text alerts and ringers are a bit low. I need to see how loud the calender alert is or it will be a problem if too low. Only when it was quieter did I hear the phone ring today.
I still think iPhone is a better multi-media device than phone. But we'll see. I haven't put it through my full phone test yet, just the media. I can see another reason why the phone is bad for business. Best way to slack off during the day while at your desk, get on the internet and watch videos, LOL!
- 08-28-2007, 10:32 PM #2967
- 08-28-2007, 11:13 PM #2968
The only one thing I did find that "absolutely sucked" for me was constantly having to pull out the phone to do anything, risking either a drop or some ***** trying to get too close, if you know what I mean. Nothing happened yet, but I think when that Voice software someone said may work is stabilized for the iPhone, I'm going to use it. Plus I think I'm going to have to invest in the Shure headphone adapter ASAP. They were out at the store, I'll order online. It has the same type switch to answer calls from the headphone as the Apple ones.
All the other stuff I mentioned is minor, but still a bit annoying. But nothing that makes me want to return the phone.
- 08-29-2007, 08:31 AM #2969
Have to take the iphone back since my wife doesn't get reception at work with it (her present).
Any cons i noticed were (the biggest one being nonApple):
Sound quality. It's not loud.
Sound quality again. Reception is spotty. Conversations have lots of choppy, static, and hissing going on. Where on the other hand, sprint is nice, loud, and quiet except for the voice.
Those were the major ones that would make me want to think twice..
Some minor ones are:
Typing. But i probably didn't have it long enough. Long as i didn't have to type a book i'm ok though.
Speed when not on wi-fi...well..we know that. Still not too horribly bad considering the gorgeous browser on it. Best part about the phone.
The web apps didn't really do it for me app wise.
Very nice multimedia though. Simple interface. Nice ipod. Just nice at what it does.
Bottom line, i almost convinced myself to keep it..but it was her present..lol. Since she needs to be able to use at work, we've no choice really but to stay with sprint.
I really wish it wasn't AT&T or it'd be a nobrainer decision for me. Where i live, there's EDGE everywhere, but no 3G, so i'm not sure if even the second version of the iphone would be for me. However, sprint has EVDO rev a. all around me. Looks like i'll be in the sprint camp for now.
The iphone is easily an awesome consumer phone, but its combined with a poor network...at least in my neck of the woods.
- 08-29-2007, 10:13 AM #2970
- 08-29-2007, 12:11 PM #2971
Wow! They finally moved the thread over to PD! I wonder if people will still post as fervently as they did before in it.
I hear you about the sound Cardfan. Your wife might need earphones to answer the call, but if she doesn't get any reception anyway, that renders the phone useless except as a really nice PMP(portable media player).
(aka Dieter Bohn) Community Director
I'll be going through this forum a bit and moving threads to the forum wherein they actually belong. Previously this would have thrown up an error when trying to clicked the "moved" link, but no longer.
Remember - the hip place to be is the combined forums if you're looking to talk about it all - http://forum.smartphoneexperts.com .
Today, 05:20 PM #2
Officially, this is going to happen now.
I guess its actually we who are back in Archie's Apple-loving backyard now
- 08-29-2007, 12:16 PM #2973
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