Is the iPhone an unfinished product?
So we have all read the reviews, and while the iPhone appears slick, it appears to lack many basic software features.
These features are found in most $0 phones, like MMS and Video recording, and it lacks obvious features like A2DP found in most modern smartphones.
The fanboys insist these will be added soon after release, but the question then arises why release a device lacking basic functionality? Did Apple miss its own deadlines and is still rushing out an unfinished product?
- 06-27-2007, 03:00 PM #2
- 06-27-2007, 03:05 PM #3
My comment above was of course hypothetical. I know full well you would have a very difficult time in dealing with the purchase of an Apple iPhone; especially with the dog & pony show you have been pulling here at TreoCentral for the last 6 months.
How you can commit so much of your time to being so negative? Your posts on the iPhone alone are in the thousands - and they are all negative hype. Can you verbalize your intentions here or are we just to assume the obvious.
- 06-27-2007, 03:06 PM #4
Why would Apple do it this way? Why release on June 29th? It seems they gave themselves a deadline they could not meet, despite pulling people of the Leopard team.
- 06-27-2007, 03:10 PM #7
Every product on the market is an unfinished product. POS doesn't have voice dialing in the box. WM devices come with a browser that doesn't have a find on page feature. Some people might not care about these features specifically, but every product is missing some features that make people wonder what the designers were thinking.
- 06-27-2007, 03:11 PM #8
Even if Apple releases a half baked iPhone it'll still blow away the current Palm (is that their name today?) offerings. If anyone is release half baked crap it's Palm - what do we pay for a new color, couple more Mbs and the removal of an antenna? Whose are the real suckers here?
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- 06-27-2007, 04:07 PM #19
You could say the same of a Treo which lacks Wi-Fi and the Windows Treo which lacks threaded messaging (yeah there is a hack but it didn't ship with this). These features are basic to some people, extra non-needed features to others. I've never known one product to fit the needs of every person, and every person has different basic needs.
- 06-27-2007, 04:08 PM #20
Palm is guilty of this as much as anyone else.
I think the iPhone is being shipped to make the assertion of shipping in Q2. Steve drew the line in Jan, and come hell or high water, he will make the date.
I'm sure there will be all sorts of issues to be fixed, but they will still ship.
Would they like a few more months to tighten it up? Sure. But Steve said Q2.
I really don't fault Apple for any glitches or bug...they comes with the territory.
What unforgivable are the design issues:
- No 3G
- No replaceable battery
- No A2DP
- No cut and paste
- No 3rd party apps (open dev platform)
- Locked to carrier
Visual voicemail - whoo dee doo. Not enough to make me switch whole hog to ATT
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- 06-27-2007, 04:40 PM #23
P.S. i feel t's unfinished..they forgot the other buttons lol (but then that might actually be by design)!
Btw I read an article (gizmodo or engadget) that said Apple Engineers actually wanted about 2 or 3 more buttons..but Jobs wasn't budging!
- 06-27-2007, 04:55 PM #24
Yeah, of course it's unfinished and I'm sure a lot of those "holes" in operability will be filled (MMS, IM, Flash, etc.) with updates eventually.
In fairness, WM5 AKU 1.x was also pretty unfinsihed with no Push email, lots of bugs and even more sluggish than now. We all got an IOU from MS for AKU 2.x which luckily just about everyone got 4 months after release.
The difference in all of this is of course Apple's stance: they proclaimed they "reinvented the phone", put down all other smartphones and made grandiose claims about the "full internet in your pocket" yadda yadda.
So with all the free hype and publicity they received, when the device lacks some features like search your contacts and voice dial, the backlash is twice as strong. That's just the game, so I really don't feel bad for the people defending Apple. (Not like the majority won't be happy anyways)
Had MS, Moto, HTC, or Palm made such claims the response would be the same if the failed to account for some of the basics.
- 06-27-2007, 04:57 PM #25
At some point, manufacturing takes over from design based on marketing decisions. The marketing decision is determined based on factors substantially beyond the consumer-based kinds of things that keep showing up on this board...with eyes more focused on Wall Street and the investment community than on Treocentral.com.