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    Why I'm Not Getting an iPhone
    Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:06PM EDT
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    The iPhone hype is so intense right now, I think people will be buying this phone based on hype alone. I mean, is the phone really that great? Our duty is to keep you informed regarding details we come across, so the more I read about the iPhone, the less I want it.

    At a glance, the device looks fantastic, features sound fun, and there's no doubt this phone is the "it" phone this year. But realistically, would you pay $500-$600 for any other phone? Like many of you, I'm still debating whether to buy an iPhone or not, so I've compiled a list of cons (since the pros are obvious) just to give myself a reality-check come Friday night.


    Price/Storage: Probably the biggest reason to wait is the price.The iPhone will retail in stores for $500 (4GB) and $600 (8GB) AND you still have to sign a new two-year agreement. Don't expect this phone to replace your iPod either. The top-of-the-line $600, 8GB iPhone only holds 2,000 songs, and only a handful of videos and full-length movies. I also don't understand why you have to buy the iPhone at full price, and still sign a two-year contract. You could easily get a comparable phone actually running on a 3G network like a Treo 750 for $199 with a two-year contract, or an 80GB video iPod for almost half the price.


    Plans: What's really bothering me about this is AT&T is playing into all this hype too, forgetting about its customers. I called AT&T today to find out more details about switching carriers, and the rep was clueless. Come on guys, we needed pricing details about a month before the phone went on sale so we could estimate costs. Why is the company being so secretive? We know the phone is launching on Friday, and we know what it does. So why did it wait so long to reveal service plans? At least now we know getting an iPhone isn't going to be cheap. Chris Null outlined the cost of each service plan, the cheapest plan being $60/mo for 450 minutes. He says that in two years, you'll end up paying close to $2,000 for service alone. Plus there is that $36 activation fee, and a two-year contract on top of that. Those who already have an AT&T account can expect to pay an additional $20-$30 for the "iPhone plan" which includes Visual Voicemail, 200 SMS text messages, and unlimited data since there is no voice-only plan. And if you think you can get the iPhone to use without service, think again. Apple's web site says a two-year agreement is required for iPhone activation including iPod features.


    Network: Surprisingly, the iPhone does not run on a third-generation (3G) network, instead it runs on the slower EDGE network. Forbes thinks Apple opted for the slower network because AT&T's EDGE coverage spans across 13,000 cities and towns nationwide, compared with only 165 major U.S metro areas that have 3G coverage. It also brings up another excellent point. Since 3G devices are interchangeable between faster and slower networks, why did Apple still choose EDGE? Other AT&T smartphones like Samsung's BlackJack and Treo 750 run on 3G, and for what I understand AT&T is slowing moving away from EDGE. So perhaps a second- or third-generation iPhone will have 3G capability. And while the iPhone may have Wi-Fi capabilities, realistically, looking for a hotspot when you're out can be a challenge, unless you pay an extra $10 for T-Mobile access at Starbucks.


    First Generation: A geek's rule of thumb is to never get a first generation gadget. Apple is one of the few companies that revamps its products at such a quick pace, that in this case, they actually make it quite bearable to wait for the second revision. Look at all the improvements they've made on iPods and MacBooks. It may seem like waiting for a new iPhone will be an eternity, but I bet it'll be a matter of months before we see a better, faster version.


    Long Lines: I love technology as much as the next guy, but no gadget is worth standing in line days in advance for, not even the iPhone. People have already started to line up, and some are even betting real money that someone will get trampled. I would add getting shot at, beaten, mugged, and possibly being hospitalized to the list.
    On top of all the above reasons, there's still some doubts about about the lack of keyboard, inability to sync with corporate internal email systems, and battery life. So lets get this straight. We're expected to pay for an overpriced phone, an expensive service plan, sign a new two-year contract, and still wait in line hoping to get one? No thanks.

    Still getting an iPhone? Why or Why not?



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    I'm considering it because I truely hate my Treo 750. I loved my 600 and 650, but this POS is the biggest lemon I've ever purchased.
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    Quote Originally Posted by newtonjack View Post
    First Generation: A geek's rule of thumb is to never get a first generation gadget.
    That may be the "rule of thumb" for a savvy consumer, but it's not the MO of a true geek. A *true* geek is an early adopter, usually overpaying and acting as a beta tester for the "privilege."
    Now THIS is the future of smartphones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott R View Post
    That may be the "rule of thumb" for a savvy consumer, but it's not the MO of a true geek. A *true* geek is an early adopter, usually overpaying and acting as a beta tester for the "privilege."
    Gues that makes me savvy then
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott R View Post
    That may be the "rule of thumb" for a savvy consumer, but it's not the MO of a true geek. A *true* geek is an early adopter, usually overpaying and acting as a beta tester for the "privilege."
    Actually, I always thought a true geek was an innovator themselves, running Linux on an iPod so they could play their OGG files or the like. Buying a mass-market consumer device, especially one with limited options for modding as the iPhone, is pretty anti-geek and fashion-conscious - more like buying the right sort of trainers!
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    I won't get it because iphone is not gramatically correct. If they name it to the Iamaphone, then maybe I'll consider it
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    Here's an even better clue on why to avoid from the AT&T FAQ...

    Q. I'm an existing customer. Can I swap out my current SIM card and start right away?
    A. No. iPhone must be activated before it can be used. iPhone includes a pre-installed SIM card for your convenience.


    "For your convenience.." my tuckus. Makes it absolutely impossible to unlock and use on another network, aka CDMA phones. Of course, many of its features (visual voicemail) wouldn't work on another network anyway, but still a pretty cheesy thing to do considering AT&T's overseas rates when you travel outside the good old USA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dstrauss View Post
    Here's an even better clue on why to avoid from the AT&T FAQ...

    Q. I'm an existing customer. Can I swap out my current SIM card and start right away?
    A. No. iPhone must be activated before it can be used. iPhone includes a pre-installed SIM card for your convenience.


    "For your convenience.." my tuckus. Makes it absolutely impossible to unlock and use on another network, aka CDMA phones. Of course, many of its features (visual voicemail) wouldn't work on another network anyway, but still a pretty cheesy thing to do considering AT&T's overseas rates when you travel outside the good old USA.
    I'll be curious if this is technically true, or if they are trying to tell people not to do it.


    I guess we will know on Friday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tirk View Post
    Actually, I always thought a true geek was an innovator themselves, running Linux on an iPod so they could play their OGG files or the like. Buying a mass-market consumer device, especially one with limited options for modding as the iPhone, is pretty anti-geek and fashion-conscious - more like buying the right sort of trainers!
    Good points. I agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dstrauss View Post
    "For your convenience.." my tuckus. Makes it absolutely impossible to unlock and use on another network, aka CDMA phones. Of course, many of its features (visual voicemail) wouldn't work on another network anyway, but still a pretty cheesy thing to do considering AT&T's overseas rates when you travel outside the good old USA.
    While it sounds like the iPhone may require a special AT&T SIM card, it remains unclear as to whether or not you could take that "special" SIM card use it with another GSM phone. I'm guessing you can, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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    The Iphone is innovative, but they are already working on an updated version. The keyboard is going to be an issue. Plus an overabundance of accessories will come out. Is the USB adapter the same as an ipod? Its a multi media device that makes phone calls, while the treo to me is a phone that has muti media capabilities. BTW since ATT doesn't offer insurance, how many are going to spend over $1000.00 to leave a current contract, sign up with ATT, purchase the iphone, and replace it when it breaks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott R View Post
    That may be the "rule of thumb" for a savvy consumer, but it's not the MO of a true geek. A *true* geek is an early adopter, usually overpaying and acting as a beta tester for the "privilege."
    Well, that's the lore anyway. I know lots of geeks that look at this and turn their noses up muttering "feature phone." I suppose that if I didn't already have a quite capable iPod and a Treo then maybe I'd consider it. But the killer for me that wasn't mentioned in the con list in the original posting is NO THIRD PARTY APPS. No, Web 2.0 doesn't count... not even close.

    Another potential con, and one that the masses haven't been able to measure yet, is the usability of the virtual keyboard.

    Another potential con is the durability of the large glass-encased display. How long will it last in pockets? How easily will it crack when used/abused?

    As for me, I'm with those who say WAIT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dstrauss View Post
    Here's an even better clue on why to avoid from the AT&T FAQ...

    Q. I'm an existing customer. Can I swap out my current SIM card and start right away?
    A. No. iPhone must be activated before it can be used. iPhone includes a pre-installed SIM card for your convenience.


    "For your convenience.." my tuckus. Makes it absolutely impossible to unlock and use on another network, aka CDMA phones. Of course, many of its features (visual voicemail) wouldn't work on another network anyway, but still a pretty cheesy thing to do considering AT&T's overseas rates when you travel outside the good old USA.
    No kidding. I kept waiting to hear that this rumor was false, that the SIM would in fact be removable, so that you could at least use an existing service with it. This basically ties the hands of iPhone users like the hands of CDMA phone holders get tied. Bad decision, since most GSM users revel in their ability to swap SIMs and move around without being tied to one carrier. DUMB MOVE, IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taroliw View Post
    No kidding. I kept waiting to hear that this rumor was false, that the SIM would in fact be removable, so that you could at least use an existing service with it. This basically ties the hands of iPhone users like the hands of CDMA phone holders get tied. Bad decision, since most GSM users revel in their ability to swap SIMs and move around without being tied to one carrier. DUMB MOVE, IMHO.
    This one could be a real deal breaker for some. When I'm going "off-road" so to speak, I swap the SIM into an old throw away phone to protect my Blackjack...I sure as heavens don't want to carry my $599 iPhone to a mud bath...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cadman View Post
    ... Is the USB adapter the same as an ipod? Its a multi media device that makes phone calls, while the treo to me is a phone that has muti media capabilities.
    Check out the current site. There are now photos and video showing all the exterior features of the device. And the answer is that *yes* it does have a compatible iPod dock connector. So, I would tend to agree that this should actually be seen as a really cool iPod with a phone built in... not the other way around. When seen this way, decisions they made about third party applications start to make more sense. But $600 for a phone-enabled iPod with 8GB storage?? They're kidding, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by cadman View Post
    BTW since ATT doesn't offer insurance, how many are going to spend over $1000.00 to leave a current contract, sign up with ATT, purchase the iphone, and replace it when it breaks?
    Yes, I'm very curious to see what happens when this occurs. I already hear people ***** and moan about having to replace bricked 200-300 iPods; such as when hard drives die. There will be some serious meltdowns after all the hype settles.
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    Exactly and I was counting on my treo as a back-up ...maybe I should wait a day or so ...... ouch
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    Quote Originally Posted by taroliw View Post
    So, I would tend to agree that this should actually be seen as a really cool iPod with a phone built in... not the other way around. When seen this way, decisions they made about third party applications start to make more sense.
    This is where the rubber meets the road. If Apple had done one simple thing, this outrageous hype would have been significantly curtailed.

    Simply name it ... iPod Phone.

    With that name this device makes a whole lot more sense. The UI is as slick as the original iPods. This takes the iPod and makes it a multimedia featurephone.

    Then again, If I'm Apple and can garner $3.25 gazillion in free advertising (hype), I would take it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stroths View Post
    I won't get it because iphone is not gramatically correct. If they name it to the Iamaphone, then maybe I'll consider it
    LOL!
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    I think it"s a bit more than a iPod w phone
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    Quote Originally Posted by stroths View Post
    I won't get it because iphone is not gramatically correct.
    Actually, if you use the word "phone" as a verb, then iPhone is gramatically correct.

    Seriously, I don't get the hype either, but as a a long-time Apple shareholder, I say "Rock on, Steve!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xianfox View Post
    Actually, if you use the word "phone" as a verb, then iPhone is gramatically correct.

    Seriously, I don't get the hype either, but as a a long-time Apple shareholder, I say "Rock on, Steve!"
    Methinks he was really thinking in terms of that classic movie line "I am not an animal!"
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    How about this simple reson not to get it:

    iPhone has no A2DP - the phone with an iPod in it can't stream music over headphones via bluetooth, you have got to be kidding me.

    I never knew that AT&T did not offer insurance, so what is going to happen when people start stealing these like the iPod's were.

    Something tells me that this whole thing is going to be a let down as far as the hype goes, but a lot of reviews say it is worhty. Must be like movie critics, I only go when they say it stinks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DominTreo View Post
    How about this simple reson not to get it:

    iPhone has no A2DP - the phone with an iPod in it can't stream music over headphones via bluetooth, you have got to be kidding me.

    I never knew that AT&T did not offer insurance, so what is going to happen when people start stealing these like the iPod's were.

    Something tells me that this whole thing is going to be a let down as far as the hype goes, but a lot of reviews say it is worhty. Must be like movie critics, I only go when they say it stinks.
    Yes, no A2DP is a glaring omission.

    Maybe Jobs can tell us if was like 3G - "It wasn't around when we designed the phone".
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    Although i will say this, that picture I saw earlier of the phone dock with built in headset chrger was a cool idea and wish I had one of those.

    iPhone has a lot of cool pretty features but it is goingto have a lot of problems, too expensive for the general public as far as a phone goes, there are not many 22 year olds willing to drop that kind of jack on a phone and service. But then again, our country loves to go into debt for instant gratification, so I am probably wrong there.

    Broke screens may be a big problem since it is glass. I just hope we do not see some kind of bad news stories on CNN during the release, I hope everyone gets out alive.

    Guess I am just sick of the hype and build up.
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    Just wait 2-3 weeks, the hype will subside and the forums will fill with people pissed about the glaring issues.
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