- 06-28-2007, 09:50 PM #151
spirited debate is fun, it's great exercise to take a side and defend one's own thought, but in this case it really has turned beyond silly.
- 06-28-2007, 09:50 PM #152
Again and this will be that last I mention it...
Maybe in poor taste but did you miss the Whitney Houston reference in the "Crack" comment?
I am sorry if they offended you but please look back at some of your own recent posts and see if the tone in them isn't just a little abrasive to those you are responding to and demeaning.
I will take your comments to heart and refrain from future use of my poor use of sarcasm.
- 06-28-2007, 10:00 PM #153
I have already taken it upon myself to ignore such things from now on and thus there will be no cycle - a win-win situation. I think I have already given what I think are the positives (GUI, screen, forcing others to innovate etc) and negatives (no removabe battery, no unlocked models, no keys, tethering to iTunes etc) so it may be that I can now sit back and simply browse witht he occasional post on a new fact!
- 06-28-2007, 10:33 PM #154
- 06-28-2007, 11:01 PM #155
Only 5 reasons? Here's 15 reasons why I won't buy one.
1) No removeable battery
2) No support for Office docs
3) Can't install third party apps
a) No Remote Desktop
4) No keyboard
5) Doesn't sync with Exchange
6) AT&T network sucks
7) No video camera
8) Can't use it as modem
9) No SIM card support, except from AT&T
10) Can't use songs as ring tones, you have to use the 20 ring tones it comes with.
11) No IM
12) No Java support (even though I don't find much use for Java).
13) Requires a 2 year contract with a has been (never was?) company
14) 600 bucks is way too much to pay for a phone. I got my Treo for half of that.
15) No real BT support; can't beam stuff back and forth to my PC, can't beam to a printer.
The only positive I see is that'll push the market, push other companies to out do it.
But out do what? In Palm's case, the Treo is already way ahead.
If I was Palm, the most compelling thing I see is the way the screen changes landscape.
The iPhone will be popular with poseurs, or people who's only use for it is recreation, not, business. Sorry, my Treo buries the iPhone.
- 06-28-2007, 11:53 PM #156
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- 06-29-2007, 01:05 AM #161
I still think a non-swappable SIM is a bad idea. It would be different if I could switch devices online like you can on Verizon without calling them, but you can't do that on AT&T. Swapping your account/line to another SIM is not a terribly trivial process like it is with CDMA phones.
- 06-29-2007, 01:16 AM #162
How about these examples:
1. This isn't good work phone for blue collar workers(and yes some CAN afford an iPhone, some make decent money), since they are doing physical stuff a lot. But if they can switch SIMs, they can use the iPhone on their off hours if they want. You can see why blue collar workers use clunky Moto Nextels most of the time on the job, you drop those and they're still good to go! Drop an iPhone, start crying!
2. And even if you're a white collar worker, suppose you're required to use a PDA on the job but still want to use the iPhone after hours? No SIM switching sucks.
3. I suspect some parents will spoil their kids and send them to school with an iPhone, but that is such a BAD idea. If you do get your kid an iPhone, you really should have them switch to a cheaper phone for school to prevent theft and they can use the iPhone after school. I know it's not cool, but iPods get stolen at school a lot so what's going to happen when iPhones show up?
4. What if you do end up having to go to less than comfortable areas, of whatever type? You need a phone but the iPhone could get easily damaged, stolen, confiscated or whatever. Time to switch SIMs. Unable to do so, then you'll have to leave the iPhone home or risk losing it.
Just some of the reasons people would NEED to switch SIMs.
- 06-29-2007, 01:36 AM #163
- 06-29-2007, 02:09 AM #164
Can I use a SIM card from another phone? The iPhone comes with an installed SIM card, the tiny circuit board that stores your account information and phone number. Apple says that you should be able to replace it with any recent AT&T card, once you activate it in iTunes. No other company’s SIM card works in the iPhone.
Looks like the iPhone uses a regular SIM. The phone is locked but you will able to put other modern AT&T SIMs and I'd imagine you'd be able switch the SIM that comes with it into other AT&T-locked or unlocked phones. Anyway, this should be confirmed (or not) very soon.
- 06-29-2007, 02:19 AM #165
- 06-29-2007, 02:28 AM #166
Another thing I forgot. What about those who exercise or walk the dog with their phones in hand? I've seen that and you may want to be careful doing those with an iPhone.
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- 06-29-2007, 03:46 AM #170
OK, I think I have the answer from the horse's mouth, which is better than hearsay. Looks like all you need to do is get an iPhone data plan and you can use the phone if you already have a contract.
So I guess you can move your existing SIM over after the phone is activated, since they claim you can pop open the SIM door with a pin.
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