- 06-27-2007, 02:13 PM #26
I got a feeling that iPhone will evolve more like that. They may have to make it an easier phone, either by adding phone buttons or some smart gesture .
- 06-27-2007, 02:40 PM #27
- 06-27-2007, 02:50 PM #28
1. Surur will be mad at you
2. Archie will like you
3. iPhonecentral.com sucks
4. Posting on these forums will also suck if you have physical proof of something about the phone
5. Your treocentral posts will have to be made without tactile feedback.
- 06-27-2007, 02:59 PM #29
- 06-27-2007, 03:16 PM #30
- 06-27-2007, 03:37 PM #31
How does it blow palm out of the water? The palm can do much much more. Instead of worrying if palm has landscape mode and voicemail like the apple..let's worry about what the iphone doesn't have that a treo can do. It's a lot and i don't really feel like listing it all.
The iphone's interface is cool, no doubt. But it's easy to see that it is geared toward the technically ignorant masses. Apple will hold your hand (and happily take more money doing it). Palm will not hold your hand. Heck, palm will slap that hand away much less hold it..lol
As a palm 700p owner, i wouldn't mind an iphone to play around with. Looks like fun. And it might even be good for a few limited things. Might get one for the wife. But in no way would i replace my treo with it. Perhaps with the Sprint Mogul i would..but that's another phone and another story.
- 06-27-2007, 03:53 PM #32
I really think that after a month or two I would get bored with the iphone. The treo really always keeps me interested. I agree with the above that probably by the 3rd generation it will be a killer device. But, just like the original Ipod, to have buttons or not? That is the question. How is the keyboard on a sunny day? This phone right now is a conversation piece at best.
- 06-27-2007, 04:21 PM #33iPhone Newbie
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- 06-27-2007, 04:37 PM #34
Personally tactile feedback will still be a big thing for me.. saw the typing video and two or three things
1. real fast (if it's real I think it is but the whole 80GB sync thing casts doubts about parts of the videos)
2. bet you he couldn't do half that speed w/o looking constantly
3. still not one-handed and I'm sure the speed would drop even more trying to type without a. one hand holding it or b. both hands holding it
okok one more...
4. no tactile feedback
- 06-27-2007, 05:41 PM #35
I didn't own a Treo until the 650. I thought the 600 was interesting, but my barrier for entry was no bluetooth. I was also nonplussed by no removable battery and complete loss of data upon battery death. So, to me, the 650 was a fairly decent bump in feature set from the 600... and I waited for the 650 specifically for that reason.
I would defiintely agree that the 680 was something less of an overall improvement the way the 650 was over the 600. But the reason I made the move was that even with *just* background email and IM, the 650 was so woefully underpowered with memory that it regularly crashed. If I get a crash once every few weeks with the 680 it's amazing... and all that was needed to fix that was a memory bump. So, yeah, the 680 wasn't that big a change... but it was changed in ways that were actually quite relevant to some of us.
To bring this back to the iPhone. There is actually a great deal about this device that is SUPER compelling, beyond the hype. In fact, I could live with the contract and the high price.... IF it was actually a smartphone. And in all reality, the barrier to entry here is mostly about the fact that you can't put third party apps on it. It's got a kickass operating system -- Palm should be embarassed that Apple has done a OS X release for a mobile device this quickly, where they *STILL* don't have Linux out for their hardware (smartphone, Foleo doesn't count).
I think that if Apple were to make subsequent revisions of the iPhone more open, and really enable it as a smartphone, then it would kick some ***. But if they keep it closed and feature phone like, then it just wind up being another player. The confusion point would be... is it a phone with media features? or is it an iPod with a radio and dial pad integration to the contacts application? Personally, I tend to think it's the latter... with woefully little storage as a media device.
I know it would kill battery life, but give me a iPhone with a 30GB drive and open API for third party app development, I'd pay even more to get one. Maybe they could even get fancy and have some flash as a fast-access cache for media files and use the disk drive less frequently to preserve battery.
iPhone or iFlop?
- 06-27-2007, 07:49 PM #37
- 06-27-2007, 07:58 PM #38
I see we needed a THREAD ON WHY I HATE THE iPHONE
By the way you can get deals from AT&T if you are thinking of switching.
The rep at a store in DC offered me a free Razor G3, Samsung A727 an free activation if I switch my family plan to AT&T and buy the iPHONE.
Waiting to hear if I can get anything else from them.
- 06-27-2007, 09:16 PM #39
- 06-27-2007, 10:06 PM #40
- 06-27-2007, 10:20 PM #41
- 06-28-2007, 09:53 AM #42
Does anyone have any statistical info on people who SWAP SIM?
As an aside, since the chip switch is a no go with the iPHONE I was told you will be able to migrate your contacts and such to the iPHONE through a program some how?
Of course it is an extra $15 bucks!!!
Always the dollars!
- 06-28-2007, 09:55 AM #43
- 06-28-2007, 09:56 AM #44
I chip switch, not only to protect my Blackjack (it was still expensive when I bought it) but it has allowed me to try lots of different phones over the last few years (and keep my grandfathered unlimited Medianet) unlike my Sprint days when you nearly had to beg SPrint to let you change phones.
- 06-28-2007, 10:00 AM #45
- 06-28-2007, 10:11 AM #46
- 06-28-2007, 10:12 AM #47
The best I found was downtown Houston where it claimed to cross 1000k a couple of times, and averaged around 800k most of that trip.
Just don't know how that compares to 700WX speeds. You also have to figure in the fact that HSDPA is not near as widespread (geographically) as EVDO. AT&T likes to brag it is covering more "customers" with HSDPA, but that's a thin small blanket in terms of actual footprint. Still, out here in the boondocks of West Texas, the old Cingular had the best overall voice footprint even though you are relegated to EDGE (how iPhonish).
- 06-28-2007, 10:19 AM #48
Everyone here is talking from personal experience unless they work for a survey co. no? Or google for stats all day. BEFORE I even had a smartphone I used to swap SIMs..int eh past 5 yrs I've lived in jamaic, Trinidad, U.S.A. and St. Lucia and I never bought a new phone during that time except for my treo 680..all the otehr times i was swapping Sims...I had a SE t68i go bad on me...so i got a cheap nokia and swapped. And plenty of ppl do this all over the world and off hand all the ppl i know do it esp when they want to upgrade (say from a motoroal v360 to a nokia 6103 etc). ppl who don't have PCs or smartphones do it quite regularly. here we have 2-3 telecom companies: Cable & Wirelss, Digicel and AT&T/Cingular (they're small here) and ppl switch networrks all the time depending on new packages. Maybe it's not an issue int eh US where ppl like to sign 2 and 3 yr contracts but a lot of ppl here use pay-as-you-go (prepaid accts) and even those who don't are not obligated to sign yearly contracts to use postpaid accounts (like me).
- 06-28-2007, 10:24 AM #49
Surur making my point of all the GSm sale how many are unlocked phones
- 06-28-2007, 10:26 AM #50