- 06-23-2007, 05:09 PM #26
Small and large businesses
Most of th people in my firm email calendar dates and contacts.
So I guess it is a difference of a BIG business and small business scenario.
- 06-23-2007, 05:09 PM #27
C'mon, Slingbox is pretty cool on a Treo and is great when on the train or the doctor's office. Personally, I love getting a CNN breaking news alert, and if worth (rarely, lol) I can just throw on CNN. I think that's pretty darn cool, but alas, no way for the carriers or Apple to make money off a revenue stream.
- 06-23-2007, 05:15 PM #28
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I can't believe people would try to underestimate the value of the almighty slingbox. Small screen or not, if I am out and about and realize I'm going to miss a show/sporting event, I can just dial it up, set my dvr, and not worry about it. Or I can watch it, if conditions permit.
Or are you trying to judge value by how often its used? Irrelevant. If I use it once a month, then that's once a month that I would say to myself "I wish I had my PPC with me," whereas I will never see a situation that makes me say "man, I wish I had the iPhone with me." Is that value enough?
- 06-23-2007, 05:51 PM #30
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- 06-23-2007, 10:56 PM #38
this report You're still #1, Frisco is #2 and we're #3. I think the difference is, we're more tightly packed with fewer and smaller roads, so the distance we drive is shorter, but the actual traffic stops are longer. In any case, whether sunny So. Cal. or the Potomac Playground, it sucks. ...but less so with a TV playing!
- 06-23-2007, 10:58 PM #39
- 06-23-2007, 11:03 PM #40
Additionally, the lack of a physical keyboard is going to kill the iPhone for business. No touch screen keyboard that I have ever used was good enough to use for very long. The iPhone simply has no chance to compete with any of the BB's, Treo's or other WM phones with keyboards - fingers on a totally flat LCD surface don't get any tactile feedback like you do with physical keys. People may be drawn to the iPhone because of it's sexy, sleek look but after anyone trys to use this thing for actually sending emails or SMS you are going to see all kinds of complaints from people who thought they could use it as a business phone.
I do think the iPhone will sell very well - it certainly is a huge step up from a standard phone, most users will find the keyboard a useful tool compared to t9, iTap etc - but for most business users it's not going to cut it.
- 06-26-2007, 01:44 PM #41
You guys should keep in mind another trend: there are many business users that are tired of the BB/Goodlink connected syndrome. I've been a Blackberry user for years, and over the last 2, I've been a Treo 700/Goodlink user. Sure, I love the Treo, love being connected, the instant gratification of always seeing email/celendar in real time, love my Slingplayer Mobile, OneNote mobile, eWallet, etc. I'm in high-tech sales and work partially from home as well as travel a bit. I'm not a Doctor or an Agent whose next big deal depends on a certain level of being connected (I understand there are those who chose a career path of "always on"). I am always online though - including at night, on weekends, on vacation with the family, etc. Its part of the dark & ugly side of being so attached to email - the "crackberry" syndrome. Everyone knows that I respond instantly regardless of where I am or what time it is. I've set expectations too high. It's eating into my personal & family time and I'm over it. I've made the decision that I'm cutting the cord to the business world via push email, and keeping my access strictly on my laptop when at home office or hotel. I'm going over to the iPhone. If I absolutely need to connect to email when traveling (before getting to my hotel), I can either get a Sierra card, or I would imagine that I could hit OWA from the Safari browser in iPhone in a pinch.
I like the idea of integrating my phone in a beautiful UI (it's about time somebody brought some innovation to the phone UI!!) along with my music (wont have to carry my iPod also) photos, videos and podcasts, web. These are things that will supplement my business use (phone & web mainly), entertain me when I have downtime (on a plane, airport, hotel, home) yet not have me constantly tethered when I'm off work (something a work-at-home person always struggles with, for those of you who dont know).
As far as the things I'll give up - some are sacrifices, some are not (i.e. no Slingplayer, but I'll have so much content on the iPhone, I wont care). Overall, for me, the psoitives far outweigh the negatives.
I totally understand that there are those that disagree with this logic and want to be connected all the time. There are the Apple haters that will try to defend BB and WM at all costs and say that the iPhone has no reason to be in the hands of a business user. There are those that will try to position the iPhone as the solution to everything. Just know that there are different users with different needs. The iPhone is an incredible device for a business or a non-business user - just depending on what they expect from the device...
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- 06-26-2007, 02:39 PM #46
I will say this tho, the interfact looks great. If Apple can make such a beautiful phone, its pitiful that Microsoft and its legions can't.
- 06-26-2007, 02:58 PM #47
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