- 06-24-2007, 09:14 AM #101
- 06-24-2007, 01:09 PM #102
- 06-24-2007, 01:49 PM #103
- 06-24-2007, 06:13 PM #104
- 06-24-2007, 06:19 PM #105
I DID post it originally but simply as it gives more details..whetherr they are true, correct or off the chart will be for users to confirm come Friday evening onwards.
I have been knocking SOME of the iPhone's features, but not because it'll be crap but because, objectively it has several limitations that in my mind make the claims Jobs & co have been making misleading and downright deceptive at times. I hope whoever gets it enjoys it as they'll certainly be paying plenty for it!
More so I hope they and the other more experienced phone cos take ALL the criticism I'm sure they've been reading online (they're techies too) into consideration for future models of their products.
- 06-24-2007, 06:21 PM #106
- 06-24-2007, 06:28 PM #107
1. it was cheaper
2. it had dmore 3rd party apps
3. had larger support community
4. had nice form factor (imo)
Money is def. not an issue for some ppl , but for others like me it is. As a matter of fact i was originally going to upgrade my iPod to a video one (80 GB) and then thought...how much movies do I really want to watch on a 2.5" screen?! A smartphone was just the smarter option (and get rid of my nokia).
- 06-24-2007, 06:47 PM #108
Engadget is not a Apple bashing site...far from it. You should actually read the site sometime.
Why is it when any criticism of the iPhone is made, it's derided as Apple bashing?
It's like the fanboys play the race card everytime.
- 06-24-2007, 07:06 PM #109
I remember when the treo 680 came out: some ppl (like me) loved it...but many others critiqued and/or bashed it (you'd think i bought Ford Model T) - but they did point out some useful limitations/observations in between the arguments! And voila..latest Palm has wifi 9criticism noted)...
- 06-24-2007, 07:38 PM #110
Mac people aren't "attacked" anymore than Windows users are "attacked" anout security and virus concerns.
I've seen a little to much kneejerk from the Apple camp (and I own and like many Apple products).
Every product has it's plus and minuses. But denying the faults is just ostrich behavior.
- 06-24-2007, 07:41 PM #111
- 06-24-2007, 07:44 PM #112
What makes ME so critical of the iPhone is, apart from its obvious limitations as a smartphone, is the "fanboys" christening this the "jesus phone" - gimme a break! There's a good reason ppl don't overly critic phones from companies like Sony to death - it's because they don't push it in your face as the saviour of you soul to death either!
For EVERY reaction there is an equal and opposite one, and a lot of ppl are sick and tired of the iPhone behemoth now. can't wait until June 30th!
- 06-24-2007, 07:48 PM #113
- 06-24-2007, 07:55 PM #114
- 06-24-2007, 08:11 PM #115
- 06-24-2007, 08:38 PM #117
I have unanswered questions like document handling. Will I have to email a pdf to myself to be able to read it out will there be some kind of document sync.
Also, I haven't see any sort of memo app. I don't know if the to do list is built into the calendar like it is on a mac desktop. Also, the calendar was skipped completely in the video tour.
Those are the things that I can think of that may dampen the experience. I hope not. We'll see. Not much point speculating when I'll have two on Friday to play with
- 06-24-2007, 09:06 PM #119
Anyway, I have cut and paste those points from Engadget below with my response included.
• The keyboard was simply described as "disappointing". Keyboarding with two thumbs often registers multiple key presses (two or three at a time) resulting in a lot of mistakes. The best way to type is with a single finger (as shown in most of Apple's demos), but two thumbs is supposedly very difficult. After trying it for a number of days our source gave up using their thumbs.
• The text auto-correction only works well for simple words, but doesn't work for proper names. We can only assume this bit will get better with time as Apple fills out its predictive text dictionary.
Ridiculous. First off, other phones don't have auto-correction for proper names so you can stop right there. Regardless, I am told the iPhone actually does have auto-correction for proper names which it has access to in the address book.
• "It won't replace a BlackBerry. It's not good for text input. It's just not a business product."
It IS a good business product. It has a highly capable phone with never-before seen features. For example, with the iPhone, unlike ANY other phone, when the ear is farther from the speaker, the degraded bass response that occurs due to sound leaking and distance, is improved upon by equalization which adjusts the bass relative to the rest of the output signal in response to the distance as measured by the proximity sensor.
It is good for text input. You can fly through typing after getting used to the phone apparently, because you only need to tap/touch the keys, not press/depress/punch like other phones.
• The touchscreen was said to, in general, require somewhat hard presses to register input, and needs some getting used to.
This is odd especially since the phone registers the input as you let up off the screen. Even so, its a glass screen... this complaint makes no since.
• In addition to its dock, the iPhone comes packaged with a polishing cloth (the thing's supposedly a fingerprint magnet, no surprise) and the usual smallish power adapter.
I don't believe it will come with a dock. I may be mistaken but this does not seem likely. Why didn't they list the other accessories that actually come with it? Did they just want to project some idea like "even Apple is admitting the screen choice is a bad idea by including a polishing cloth" or some such non-sense.
• The Bluetooth headset will debut in the $120 range, and will come with its own dock for charging both the phone and the headset. The headset will feature a miniature magnetic charging interface á la MagSafe.
• The Bluetooth headset has a hidden LED and is supposedly a very small and elegant device. Sound quality is said to be "typical". There is no clip; like many headsets you're expected to just let it hang out of your ear, as previously shown.
• The browser "worked well" but page load speeds on EDGE were just as slow as expected. It sounds like 3G users will have a tough run with this.
What was expected? 3G? T1? Browsing speeds are faster than the Treo 680 or the Motorola, which is good considering they all have access to the same data speed.
• Users must scroll through the address book (or use the alphabet-drag on the side) -- one cannot bring up the keyboard and type in a name, as many of us are used to.
• Shocker: YouTube over EDGE didn't work well at all, and will basically necessitate use of WiFi.
- 06-24-2007, 09:12 PM #120
- 06-24-2007, 09:58 PM #121
- 06-24-2007, 10:32 PM #122
Your response makes little sense, and it glat wrong.
There is a dock with the iPhone, just like the 2nd gen Shuffles.
As for optimum listening distance and form, that was poppycock, plain and simple.
A business device? GMAFB. It's clear it is not.
Yes, there will be a polishing cloth too.
As for the speed of typing, you have never used it - how can you say it will "fly"?
- 06-25-2007, 04:36 AM #123
The 'need to push hard' thing seems just like the sort of mistake a faker that had only used a resistive screen would make, and I'm tending to the view the Engadget's 'very trusted inside source' is full of it.
- 06-25-2007, 06:49 AM #124
- 06-25-2007, 06:58 AM #125