- 06-23-2007, 04:46 PM #101
Surur is stating the fact the Jobs was not telling the facts in his address.
You call it marketing, but it is lying.
I sense Apple has never used a Treo with WM5.
And what is "true internet"?
It's web sites (full), instant messaging, voip, video, etc.
It's not a Safari constrained, server-side app world.
The most popular "internet" apps are client side - instant messaging, Skype, Bit Torrent, any P2P app. And yes, even email.
Don't hate the messenger, hate the source.
- 06-23-2007, 04:48 PM #102
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- 06-23-2007, 05:17 PM #108
Totally incorrect. Apple have their fair share of skeletons in the closet, I'm just not doing your homework for you.
I just don't like to see them or their products get bashed on trumped up accusations. If you want to have a discussion on the REAL weaknesses of the product or REAL misrepresentations by Apple (or Palm, or Microsoft or whoever) then go right ahead. But if I went to the Treo forum and started making up or grossly misinterpreting statements about the Treo I'd expect to see some level of correction.
- 06-23-2007, 05:25 PM #110
Explains some of your other posts
If by "we" you mean the forum, then that's excellent. I'm happy for your guys. Would would you then progress from a facts based discussion to a discussion based on people misunderstanding and misinterpretation?
- 06-23-2007, 05:36 PM #112
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So that argument could go either way. Again, it's not black and white and really it depends how granular we want to be.
Personally - I just accept the fact that Apple came out with an interesting new interface and a "ramping it up" as they like to do. Just like Microsoft did with Vista. Just like Palm did with the WM based Treo.
- 06-23-2007, 09:27 PM #116
If Widgets are portable then you should be able to load any widget on the iPhone, right? That was my expectation when I first saw the iPhone keynote, but it means nothing if you can't actually load them on the phone.
And saying a widget is a fully-fledged desktop app is also a stretch, since they run within a desktop application themselves.
As far as 'an iPod that is also a phone', Moto, Sony etc have has phone/MP3 players for years now. My friend's moto can hold a 4gb micro SD so I don't exactly know what you mean by that. My w600i had a dedicated Walkman and play button and was a very serviceable MP3 player. If you mean it is the first Apple MP23 player then what the heck does that matter?
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- 06-23-2007, 09:46 PM #123
Originally Posted by Webpronews, Jun 2007 (a common TreoCentral Join date!)
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- 06-23-2007, 10:03 PM #125
SE has a whole line of walkman phones, above is what I was considering recently.
Not to mention any Palm or WM, Nokia has 4GB music phones, Cingular lists 34 different MP3 phones on their website alone.
Not to say that they all are as good as an iPod but it is not as if music players haven't made it into cell phones yet (just like the internet). Because it isn't an iPod branded player doesn't mean anything.