- 06-21-2007, 05:59 AM #27
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- 06-21-2007, 06:50 AM #29
That depends. On a tough forum like this it's hard, but if he were this excited over the iPhone on say a teen forum or something like that, it may sell phones. I've heard of this type of marketing before. Of course I don't know for sure that's what he's doing, but sometimes I do wonder.
- 06-21-2007, 06:51 AM #30
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- 06-21-2007, 12:13 PM #34
I happen to believe the apple view more than your PMP-first theory, but we won't know till we play with it.
- 06-21-2007, 01:32 PM #36
LG PRADA phone, which has about the same hardware as the IPhone, except for WIFI and 8GB flash. Its £289 ($575) before tax. After subsidy its $60. The problem with the IPhone is not that its $600, but that Apple is refusing a subsidy.
- 06-21-2007, 01:51 PM #38
But I think the memory should be much more if it is going to be an iPod. 8GB gets filled up very fast with music and videos. If you have an iPhone you probably will still want an iPod (but maybe Apple sees this as a good thing?).
Hopefully v2 will have a 16GB or larger flash drive. I would love to see a micro SD slot too.
- 06-21-2007, 03:00 PM #39
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- 06-21-2007, 03:12 PM #41
Maybe Palm should consider some bundled pricing for the Foleo and Treo combo. That may be the easiest way to get Foleos into people's hands.
- 06-21-2007, 03:58 PM #42
Without barely mentioning the idea of making your own, slippstreamed ROM (where you removed what you don't want, add what you do for auto installation) there is the "legal" and easy method:
I use this on all my machines. Rip out what you don't need, keep what you do. And I'm talking core components here...
I'm thinking if this really bothered you, you never really asked for a solution since XP lite has been around since the late 90's and is very effective :thumbsup:
(and is ROM the right words here? Or do you mean what your PC came with? Only mobile phones have ROM I thought, PCs have HDDs. You could also bypass this Works thing by buying from a different dealer who a) doesn't install XP/Vista and/or provides you with the install disk b) buying a PC with just the OS, no addons. It sounds like you bought a Dell, or Comaq or something. Try a different company, you'll save $$ and get what you want)
- 06-21-2007, 09:19 PM #43
It DOES bother me, but I didn't know what XP Lite was. I'll look into it. Thanks!
Yes, it's a bundled commercial laptop. It's fine except for the ingrained MSFT programs stuck in the ROM/HDD. I "uninstalled" but they're still there taking up space.
- 06-22-2007, 01:36 AM #44
But as a web developer, this whole thread is based on pure misinformation. The specification you linked to is quite clear and unambiguous - 10 MB limit is the HTML code limit, NOT the size limit of the entire web page! 10 MB of actual HTML code would be one enormous web page, far bigger than anything I'd ever want to visit, even on my desktop computer. I doubt I've ever visited a 10 MB page ever, honestly. You'd be scrolling for what seems like days. A 10 MB page limit makes no sense - if that were the case, there would be no point to having QuickTime support in the iPhone(which it does), since QT movies are tend to be much larger than that.
Let's put it this way, both pages you linked to as theoretically "unviewable" on the iPhone actually contain no more than 156K of HTML code.
I know many people are trying really really hard to be contrarian about the iPhone, mainly because they're sick of hearing about it. I totally understand, believe me the hype feels like it's out of control. But please stick with the facts at hand rather than use whatever limited info we have to come to completely false conclusions. Maybe the iPhone will do what Apple says it will, and maybe it won't. I think it would be best to wait until a few unbiased people get the thing in their hands before coming to any conclusions either way.
- 06-22-2007, 02:16 AM #45
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- 06-22-2007, 06:13 AM #48
...and I shall return when I get my own iPhone after June 29th like many other Treo users out there and I will give you the pros and cons even though I am a "Machead"
I was at the Cingular store yesterday and heard this guy (with a Treo 650) berating the store employee for not giving him any info at all about the iPhone. I then asked him why he wanted to replace his Treo and he simply said that he wants an iPhone next week because he was sick and tired of 2-3 times his Treo resets daily. I suggested that maybe he should replace his Treo with the Blackberry Curve and his reply - "I want an iPhone!" And oh he was not even a Mac fanboy! He told me his laptop is a Dell
- 06-22-2007, 07:17 AM #49
funny story TreoRat....."so sick and tired of his Treo's 2-3 daily resets".....shame that so many consider that normal operating procedure. let me guess, it doesn't happen to anyone's here.
real life example? just yesterday my friend chucked his Treo in the can after it froze during trying to answer a call...that was the last straw for him too. got online and ordered a new Blackberry Curve.
- 06-22-2007, 09:13 AM #50
10MB max html size for web page
Also, Safari on Mac, like most browsers, uses a progressive loading system - the HTML page is loaded first, then the images are filled in. You wouldn't be able to tell the entire page size until ALL images were fetched, which means that you'd see a completely blank page until everything "pops" on the screen. But it's obvious from looking at all the iPhone videos and demos and looking at Safari itself on a Mac that it uses the exact same progressive loading that it's always used.
If you were right, the iPhone would have to start loading a page, displaying it as normally, then when it reaches the so-called "10MB limit" put up a message in the middle of loading that says "sorry, this page is too big" and blank out the screen.
This makes no sense, Apple's engineers aren't complete idiots as people seem to think they are. Occam's razor and all that - which is more likely, that the spec means exactly what it says it means, which is a 10MB HTML limit (at a developer's conference, no less! Developers like specificity), or that it has a hidden meaning that would render a large number of pages useless on a device advertised as internet capable?