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Network Operators (Sprint, Verizon, T-mobile and even AT&T) will not allow Firmware updates that are not carrier-approved to roll out.
In order to get "carrier approval" you need to submit it to extensive carrier testing, as well as carrier customizations that they request. This costs everyone money: Carriers and manufactures (who need to customize WM for every device).
Apple has by-passed this in two ways: they have their own servers on AT&Ts network, which was contingent on their using AT&T. There is no AT&T approval for the iPhone since Apple has literally walled them off from touching the OS at all.
Since the iPhone is only on 1 carrier with their own servers, it is logically easier to roll out updates. It's convenient yet not practical for multi-operator roll outs, hence their exclusivity.
WM6 has a OTA WinUpdater built in to it to allow updates to the OS regardless of carriers.
WM5 --> WM6 upgrades to devices are dependent NOT on MS but on the manufacturer (to customize) and the Network Operator.
You need to learn details and context. And if you have a Dash, a Blackjack and soon a 750, I can direct you to a free update for the OS to get WM6.
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So I think it holds there too. I think that Palm is more adherent to larger batteries than to slimness where possible for functional reasons.
As thin as devices like the Q are though, people often complain now that the ergonomics when typing are thrown off, since it is too thin (it's a legitimate complaint often found in those forums). Hence rounded-backs tend to "feel better" but alas, those result in thicker devices.
Like I said, there are always trade offs in design.
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75x has been getting thinner and smaller??? that's the same shell design as the 680, right? the one with the "curved in sides" and "antenna-less" design?.....i think i had them both and i would have hardly referred to them as thinner and smaller but by definition, yes! they were!
to me they were the same ol' Treo brick. lots of others sayin' the same 'round here these days....
- 06-18-2007, 07:56 PM #169
review roundup") and my cursory look at the forum here seems to imply that people are generally happy with it (especially compared to the 700p fiasco).
Obviously Palm is taking baby-steps here but the 75x series generally appears to be well received. Not mind-blowing, but above-satisfactory for a lot of people.
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Every review of the Treo says nearly the same thing: ergonomic.
It doesn't feel great in your pocket, but feels perfect in the hand.
The secret is finding the sweet spot which is no easy task. I highly doubt everyone will be overjoyed with how the iPhone feels in the hand for typing extensively.
Granted, things like BT and camera's could be better. Wifi I'm mixed on--I honestly find it overkill with 3g.
- 06-18-2007, 08:12 PM #173
just imagine how many they could sell if they were less heavy and less brick-like.....so many in the market are saying they don't need all that "functionality" and the like.....they should make a phone for that market but instead they decided to focus on the Foleo. again, so many around here are validating it....they just don't need all of that functionality at the cost of out-dated operating systems, crashes/reboots, etc.....a touchscreen can only take you so far.
- 06-18-2007, 08:12 PM #174
Actually why wasn't the 700p stable out of the box? But the 755p "upgrade" you had to pay for was? Because they fixed in the 755 what they should have done in the first place for the 700 out of the box!!
Same with 700wx, why is it stable over the 700w? They added the memory they should have in the first place!!!
But the owners of older devcies are either stuck or have to buy an "upgraded" device at a cost.
- 06-18-2007, 08:13 PM #175