- 06-23-2007, 10:21 AM #276
Of course the treo 680 got enough derision, mainly for being only a tiny bit thinner and having a VGA camera, but its saving grace was that its very cheap. No-one is hyping the Mungol much, except as an upgrade to a treo. It certainly does not compare to the undeserved hyping the iphone gets.
- 06-23-2007, 10:30 AM #277
- 06-23-2007, 10:51 AM #278
Fact is, WM is the most flexible mobile OS that is available to me (I'm not paying Sprint $40/month for a BB plan).
I'd buy an iPhone too if it met 3 relatively simple conditions:
- Sprint (AT&T is awful around here/prices are extortion)
If it had all of that I'd do a buy/try in a second, seeing as it is not...
- 06-23-2007, 11:10 AM #279
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- 06-23-2007, 12:04 PM #284
I know you meant it as off the cuff and I'm waay over analyzing here, but I just see a vast canyon between the two and perceptions.
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- 06-23-2007, 12:37 PM #289
Agree with you..if I get an iPhone it'll be soley or the gimmick (the UI) as my treo already does everything it can in terms of functionality and more. and I'll wait until ppl figure out how to unlock 'em of course as I don't even live int he US!
I think any device w/o removable battery is just plan dumb now...I've had experiences with batteries dying ro just draining and dto have to dock such a phone cuz you forgot to charge it one night is incovenient...AFTER paying $500 -$600 plus contract!
- 06-23-2007, 12:37 PM #290
- 06-23-2007, 04:09 PM #291
So true..I've used macs since OS 8 and since OS X 10.1 the OS has become like Windows - buggy. Maybe not as buggy but it's also because there's less of a threat. Apple makes large fix updates periodically (can be anywhere from 30 - 200 MB sometimes every few months) while Windows sends a continuous stream (usually 1 - 30 MB depending usually monthly) simply because the OS is more attractive to hackers and the like and thus more likely to suffer from attacks on it.
- 06-23-2007, 04:35 PM #292
The approaches to security (even in Vista, never mind XP) vs OS X is startlingly different.
- 06-23-2007, 04:44 PM #293
If they wanted to get in, they could. For every engineer, there's an equally intelligent hacker out there, Thats my .02
- 06-23-2007, 04:55 PM #294
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PS @ HowardH as Pattycerts points out there are plenty ppl that can hack ANYTHING...but it's more fun taking down the bigger boys...if Apple continues on there upward trend (now about 6% PC share?? have no idea) they will become more attractive as a target..but Microsoft will always be the Holy Hacker Grail! More chaos!
- 06-23-2007, 05:01 PM #296
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- 06-23-2007, 05:11 PM #298
There have been several contests recently where the objective has been to hack into a Mac placed on the 'net. The most recent one was ended when the contest holders changed the rules to allow a remote exploit to occur with the assistance of a user being at the machine and executing specific web code. So in the end it was hacked, but they had to change the rules of the contest to make it happen.
Simplistically, look at the absolute basics in security between Vista's brand new security subsystem (based on authorization) and the established authentication based system in OS X. Fundamentally they're still miles apart. We can sum up the new Vista security with "are you sure?", which is a stark contrast to other secure OSs.
- 06-23-2007, 05:13 PM #299
- 06-23-2007, 05:16 PM #300
The pwn-2-own contest got off to a slow start on Thursday. The rules originally mandated an exploit that required no action on the part of the user. The reward for a successful hack was the machine that had been compromised. Conference attendees were underwhelmed, reasoning a Mac exploit that required no end-user interaction could be sold for upwards of $20,000. Things changed significantly on Day 2.
That's when Tipping Point upped the ante with its promise of a $10,000 bounty. Contest organizers also relaxed the rules so exploits could include malicious websites that attacked Safari. At the time of writing, a second MacBook Pro had successfully withstood attacks. ®