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- 06-06-2007, 11:00 AM #76
I don't understand all of this. My 650 does pretty much everything the IPhone is going to do. I can stream some 70's rock while looking at websites or I can watch Return of the Jedi. I'm sure that some of the higher models have the TV channels (I got it through mobitv for awhile).. I hug my treo on a daily basis. Apple can't polish a nonturd. Sorry there is nothing wrong with the treo.
- 06-06-2007, 11:08 AM #77
Whistling past the graveyard in the dark here folks. iPhone is going to fly off the shelves much like the original Razr. And if Apple only added two things right now: (1) Exchange server push support, and (2) Docs-to-Go level attachment viewing and editing, they will rule the converged device space as well. I expect they will have both shortly after release. Come early 2008, when the 3G versions start rolling out, you will start seeing iPhone dominating the cell phone space much like iPod did MP3 players.
I've even got my most anti-computer, anti-geek partners wanting to know if we can hook up email for them on an iPhone - they wouldn't even look twice at my Blackjack or a Blackberry of any flavor.
- 06-06-2007, 11:23 AM #78
I didn't vote in the poll because it's too early to tell whether heavy keyboard users (you know who you are) will find Apple's "soft" keyboard application satisfactory. If the majority of you find it satisfactory, I think the bigger screen and multitouch UI will prove irresistable, and Treo is doomed.
- 06-06-2007, 11:35 AM #79
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- 06-06-2007, 12:35 PM #81
I need Tide Tool, True Push Email (Chatter), Italian Dictionary, French Dictionary, English Thesaurus, French and Italian Verb Conjugators, Vindigo, DTG, Continental Airline Scheduler, Google Maps, Guide Michelin, TomTom Navigator, and a few others. If IPhone can't give that, the keyboard is irrelevant. If it can give all of those (which I seriously doubt), then the keyboard becomes an issue and I'd have to try it. But I doubt Iphone is going to be open enough to allow all those developers access. In any case, I'm sure it won't be done for several years, which means for me it's a nonissue for that amount of time. I also need MemInfo, and a file manager because it wouldn't be much fun having a smartphone if I couldn't continuously work on it and curse it.
- 06-06-2007, 12:44 PM #82
- 06-06-2007, 01:07 PM #83
The Treo's days are numbered quite apart from the impact of the iPhone. I am even more convinced of that after the 700p maintenance release.
The Treo's demise won't be homicide by iPhone. It will be suicide by ineptitude.
The Treo as a product might well thrive in other ecosystems but with Palm as its parent I fear the worst.
I'm tellin' ya. RIM pulls its finger out and upgrades its software for a better UI and better PIM functionality and Palm loses yet another competitive advantage.
- 06-06-2007, 01:15 PM #84
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- 06-07-2007, 06:53 AM #87
It's a sweet device, but if you send lots of email, IMs and texts, how's that going to work without a keyboard or keypad? Virtual keyboards are annoying if you do lots of text entry. I have done it and it's tiresome.
- 06-07-2007, 07:09 AM #88
I was over on some BB forums and lots of ATT users just went for the Curve(just came out last week). Who's going to pay up the wazzoo again at the end of the month?
- 06-07-2007, 07:12 AM #89
Of course, who has not had trouble with the real keyboard on a Treo? When I get typing fast, I make errors, and if one of the problems of not having a keyboard is that you will make too many errors, I suppose the real issue is whether you will make more errors with the keyboard or with the fake.
- 06-07-2007, 07:27 AM #90
- 06-07-2007, 04:27 PM #91
By the way, I'm wondering why having the other hand free is so important...something to do while the Treo resets? <joke>
Seriously, I agree that if the iPhone isn't enough to bring the Treo down, it will all the Windoze copy-cats who come out with something strangely similiar that will cause the remainder of the crowd to jump ship.
- 06-07-2007, 06:42 PM #92
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- 06-07-2007, 06:49 PM #94
Oh, on a related note (in regards to the iPhone commercials that is), the newest commercial entitled "Water Down" has the New York Times website featured and the iPhone is displaying the Flash content in the paper's usual Flash-based advertising spot - halfway down on the right; though there is no animation being shown, just a still image, so I'm not sure if it was done playing or what exactly happens there.
Still, in the keynote, the web page just had a question mark in the middle of the Flash content area when the iPhone rendered it out so something has changed.
- 06-07-2007, 06:59 PM #95
One more thing in regards to activation and the available plans. There is increasin gevidence that Google is working with Apple to provide a different kind of subsidizing. One that doesn't guage you with $40-$70 a month for voice/data services. I am not clear on what is in the works but it could be based on Google ads tied in with AT&T. I don't have any presentable evidence of this but it is looking like a... hmmmm... 68% chance of coming to fruition.
How's that for prognostication?
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- 06-07-2007, 07:18 PM #99
no touchy no credit card.
I guess some might find that acceptable but to my you really need some feedback and also the clues that you are on the correct keys. Maybe younger people don't but i think many my age and older prefer it. (and I'm not like 100- LOL). I remember the early home computers with the membrane keyboards and how they stank so bad because you couldn't feel anything. Then more recently I had a universal remote control with a touch screen- you need to look where you place your fingers instead of feeling it. Major PIA when you want to adjust something on without pausing the tv. And I'd think a major PIA trying to type something when I can't watch the words but rather have to look at the screen.
(maybe the solution to that is each key gives a slightly different beep so you can hear when your fingers are in the correct spot???)
- 06-07-2007, 07:22 PM #100
Sorry. I didn't see that from 10 posts back.
I just read the part where you say it doesn't have a keyboard. And then even after dismissing symantics , you still say: "If it had a keyboard...it would have a keyboard. Perhaps I should say that more clearly: If it had a keyboard...it would have a keyboard."
What do you mean exactly? I don't understand.