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- 06-04-2007, 05:06 PM #51
- 06-04-2007, 05:26 PM #52
Are you telling me you can't hold the Treo and tap and slide your thumb around the screen all with one hand? Any marginally, ambidextrous person can use this thing with one hand.
Just try it with your Treo. Slide your thumb and tap around the front of the phone while holding it all with one hand.
I can't believe this crap.
Point of fact; it will actually be easier on the iPhone because the device is half as thin as the Treo (giving you more maneuverability) AND the keyboard is located farther away from the bottom of the device than the Treo, allowing for a more comfortable thumb movement range.
This is basic ergonomics and again something surprisingly simple to solve... yet also surprisingly ridiculous that no one has solved it before. But, such is the lackluster-filled innovation of the smartphone manufacturers.
- 06-04-2007, 07:29 PM #53
Haha! That's hilarious! Even Apple admits the device requires two hands to operate -with their own video proof of the requirement. And this doesn't even consider the complete lack of tactile feedback on that screen. Result: iPhone requires 2 hands and at least one eye ( ) to operate it. How revolutionary! Even my TV remote control has a better interface than that!
- 06-04-2007, 07:34 PM #54
- 06-04-2007, 07:55 PM #55
First IPhone commercial I've seen
I just saw the commercial on CBS tonight. I can tell you this: this has got to be the best mobile phone I've ever seen, and if I wanted a mobile phone with a few bells and whistles, I'd get it in a millisecond. It is really really hot. Or cool. But, in my view, it just doesn't make it as a smartphone. But it's a really good phone, and makes an even better commercial--perhaps the best I've very seen. Very cool. Very hot.
- 06-04-2007, 08:13 PM #56
I think its funny that everyone says its a phone for those that just want to be cool and don't care what it has to offer. The young and the uninformed. YET, here Apple is advertising away during programs like CBS Tonight and 60 minutes - programs whose audience is made up of the middle age and old age demographic. Folks who don't care about being cool particularly.
- 06-04-2007, 08:17 PM #57
Your mistake is not understanding the "middle age and old age demographic;" do you think they have anything else to look forward to except being cool? What you mean is you don't think they're cool. That doesn't mean they don't. For many of them, it's the first time they've been able to afford to be cool. If cool means having a particular phone.
- 06-04-2007, 10:36 PM #58
You do have a point. I am almost 52 ( I think Jobs is around the same age) which also means that I have been using technology for close to 30 years (First PC was an AppleIIe). So, yes, its less of a cool issue for me/us then functionality and beautiful design. I am only slightly a gadget person, I did have to get the Treo 750v right when it came out ;-)
So the 50-60 year old of today is quite knowledgeable technically. In fact, I think many of us are more so than the 20-30 year olds, for whom this is what they grew up with. We had to fight with CP/M and DOS and dBase back when there was only a dot prompt. I find that my 27 year old niece is very comfortable with technology but cannot troubleshoot if something goes wrong.
So, yes, I think that these days a product like the iPhone covers a broad demographic.
- 06-04-2007, 10:41 PM #59iPhone Nanite
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Reading the latest update from BoyGeninus, having the SIM inbuilt and not removable will be a big detraction for the iPhone! The last thing customers will want is to be locked in for ever and a day with the one phone carrier.
The iPhone is not going to be what the Treo or BlackBerry is.
The iPhone is an entertainment device, whereas the Treo & BlackBerry are business tools.
- 06-05-2007, 12:18 AM #60
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- 06-05-2007, 12:08 PM #65
It's all personal preference and what works best for each individual, but Palm had years to come up with something innovative. Instead, they waited for Apple to do it along with all the other copy cats that will follow.
- 06-05-2007, 12:43 PM #66
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- 06-05-2007, 03:01 PM #69
I guess my article shot over all of your heads.
At first I was like many of you & had every reason to be since Steve Jobs said he wanted the I-phone to be closed to just apple & the way I feel is If a device ties my hands in any way I don’t want **** to do with it since We now all live in an age where connectivity and cross platform interoperability are the norm. But, now that he’s saying that wont be the case I believe that the i-Phone will likely catch up and eventually blow past Palms Treos as a public convergence device. Eventually with the proper software and hardware upgrades i also believe the i-Phone could become the De facto standard for business too. (granted it gets a decent battery life and professionals software)
& for the record, I’m not an Apple fanboy. I don't own an I-Pod or a MAC because I hated DRM & such closed source architectures but since Jobs has finally addressed this I’m ready to take Apple more seriously.
- 06-05-2007, 03:10 PM #70
- 06-05-2007, 03:32 PM #71
in the same time the palm or MS or RIM (or whoever) products COULD get software and hardware upgrades to be much better.
Or are you saying that you think apple just is better run so that now that they are entering the market they can catch up and overtake the incumbents by being quicker to improve upon their platform?
That might be- I wouldn't really know myself to be honest.
- 06-05-2007, 03:40 PM #72
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- 06-05-2007, 08:25 PM #74
- 06-05-2007, 10:44 PM #75
In response to everybody else; what this all comes down to is acceptance & personal preferences.
In the case of acceptance in time you either will or you won’t accept the i-Phone as real competition to the Treo. At the moment why should you all? The phones not even out yet and when it does come to market it will need to prove its competently functional first.
As for personal preference “well”, that speaks for itself.
For the record I never said at any point that the I-Phone would definitely conquer the business market with this version of the i-phone (Although my first post is broad & I'm sorry about that.) I went on to say "with the proper software and hardware upgrades I also believe the i-Phone could become the De facto standard for business too. (Granted it gets a decent battery life and professionals software)" And I still stick to this statement. The past has shown us that Opening up to software developers like Palm & Microsoft did can only lead to good things. I just hope the developers can figure out ways to navigate thru their software as ingeniously as Apple has managed to navigate thru their OS.
For the moment this phone is nothing but a multi media device but as it matures from the wants and needs of the people I think it could successfully replace a laptop just as Windows mobile is doing but with more ease of use.