- 05-22-2007, 10:22 AM #2
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- 05-22-2007, 10:43 AM #4
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- 05-22-2007, 11:01 AM #6
that 5 year exclusive is either pure genius or a blunder on par with the stupidest ones of all time for apple.
It seems like Apple really revels in being a niche player. Extreme case ATT maybe can corner what, maybe 50% of the market? (right now I guess they are around a third if you att in dinks besides sprint and vz)- why the hell would you limit yourself to 33- 50% of the market for 5 years? ATT must have paid a fortune?
- 05-22-2007, 11:29 AM #7
- 05-22-2007, 11:45 AM #8
Verizon said no, since the IPhone has Wifi, and VZW can't have that. I would also imagine that the IPhone will eventually have GPS (I hope) eventually, and VZW would have to disable that too. Verizon is freakin stupid to disable built in functionality of a phone, like GPS on the BB 8703e and the 8830. WTF! It is built into the phone. You pay for the technology, and Verizon denies the customer the "right" to use the function!?! DARN YOU VERIZON. YOU'RE NOT NICE.
- 05-22-2007, 03:02 PM #9
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- 05-22-2007, 06:55 PM #13
I dont think that verizon really has a beef with wifi compared to evdo. they have a hand in pay wifi. If you install their software to use tethered data from an evdo phone it has a wifi component.
They probably dislike FREE wifi but I'm sure they dont mind selling their business customers wifi.
Wifi and voip is never going to kill cell phones- probably wont make a dent either. It's not like you can get free wifi anywhere. The only wireless internet technology that might be scary to verizon's evdo is wimax. And the only national wimax network will be the pay one that sprint is building. So I'm sure at some point vz might even move to wimax themselves. PAY wimax.
even voip at home probably doesn't bother them- internet isn't free someone is paying for it and they hope you buy it from them on their fios network. So they are more than illing to SELL you voip ontop of their fios fiber. Want to try free voip like sykpe or something- go right ahead they'll just charge you for the internet anyhow. If tons of people abandon paying for phone then watch what happens to the price of internet service- they'll just jack it to make up the lost money.
- 05-22-2007, 07:12 PM #14
- 05-22-2007, 07:38 PM #15
USAToday previously reported that Apple was asking for a cut of the monthly fees. Given how stingy and pricy and smug Verizon is (*sigh* and I'm a customer), I'd say that was the reason they turned it down.
Originally Posted by USAToday
- 05-22-2007, 08:41 PM #16
- 05-22-2007, 11:01 PM #17
From USA article:
Customer care was another hitch: If an iPhone went haywire, Apple wanted sole discretion over whether to replace or repair the phone. "They would have been stepping in between us and our customers to the point where we would have almost had to take a back seat … on hardware and service support," Gerace says.
Ha! Verizon hardware and service support?? Has anyone ever had actual hardware or service support from Verizon? I certainly haven't.
- 05-23-2007, 03:11 PM #18
-WIFI has nothing to do with cellular service. I think Verizon is a little short sighted for not leaning on their hardware vendors to provide this, but Verizon isn't preventing us from having it. There is nothing to be lost by Verizon for including WIFI.
- GPS IS available on Verizon phones. Just about any of the regular phones can download a Navigation App from Get It Now that works exactly like any of the highend GPS units you'd buy, including the Blackberry 8800. This includes voice directions and all. I have no idea why Verizon doesn't make this app available to us Treo users.
- 05-23-2007, 03:20 PM #19
Bottom line is we all are packing around GPS units with us. The only thing that is missing is software to marry the GPS signal to a map database. Why Verizon doesn't just port their existing app for regular phones to the Smartphone platforms is beyond me.
- 05-23-2007, 03:27 PM #20
- 05-23-2007, 03:56 PM #21
First off we need to understand something about the GPS, only a few phone have real true GPS that uses GPS satellites, the rest of them use cell phone towers to triangulate. Trying using this system off the network or when you are only close to 1-2 towers and your accuracy will be off by miles.
- 05-23-2007, 04:28 PM #22
exactly- not all have gps. it depends on teh carrier. I beleive vz specs gps in all their phones though so they can sell the addon get it now navigator and later on they can sent you text messages when they relaize you are next door to their advertiser. Give it time- in a few years you'll drive past a mcdonalds and you'll get a text "show this code to the cashier for a half price value meal"
I suspect the reason treos cant get that get it now navigator program is we cant get any get it now- they write them solely in that brew thing (or some other proprietary flavor) that wont run on a treo. Maybe one day they will make a brew VM like you can download that huge Java VM but that's probably about all they would do.
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