- 04-14-2007, 04:55 AM #101
- 04-14-2007, 05:02 AM #102
- 04-14-2007, 05:04 AM #103
This is from an interview with macwelt.
Are system and applications stored in a firmware or in the Flash memory iPhone?
The entire software is in the Flash memory. This reserves thus seat on the 4 and/or 8 GB inserted memory. According to Apple statements however „clearly under a half gigabyte “. The advantage: System and software updates are at any time possible without technical expenditure. The disadvantage: From anyway to sumptuous memory are not missing some hundred megabyte, which is needed for system and software.
Thats the source, and everyone is running with it.
- 04-14-2007, 05:26 AM #104
- 04-14-2007, 05:31 AM #105
- 04-14-2007, 05:43 AM #106
- 04-14-2007, 06:06 AM #107
- 04-14-2007, 06:09 AM #108
And in my regular scheduled dig at Archie, one could store more music for less on a Treo 680 with a SD SDHC card for much less than an IPhone e.g. $200 with contract for the 680, and $70 for a 4GB SD card, or $90 for the 8GB SD card. Less than $300 in total.
Life would be pretty empty without the tilt sensor however....
- 04-14-2007, 06:23 AM #109
7.50 GB = 8053063680 B (7.50 x 1024 x 1024 x 1024)
For my iPod:
Audio: 6.72 GB = 7215545057 B
Other: 45.4 MB = 47605351 B
Free: 761.4 MB = 798385766 B
Total = 8061536174 B
But where's the OS?
This could mean that the iPhone bit of iTunes will report much less than 7.5 GB.
- 04-14-2007, 06:35 AM #110
I'm sure the Ipod OS is on a separate bit of flash, probably attached to the processor.
Edit: Apparently the Ipod operating system is about 40 MB big, and is stored on the media (HDD or flash) also.
- 04-14-2007, 09:44 AM #111
lots of talk and mention of the Helio....sounds like it offers the features that many want (gps, 3g, etc). and more importantly, it's design is just perfect for those who love clumsy slide-out keyboards and bulky/heavy devices.
too bad they can't smoosh all of those goodies into a more thin and useable form factor.
- 04-14-2007, 10:05 AM #112
Still to put in perspective: it's thinner and lighter than any Hiptop/Sidekick and yet has much more in features. Need I point out how popular those are? I think for what they were working with in design specifications, the Ocean came out pretty well for the size.
If you go ahead and remove all the hardware keyboards, you'll be the size of the iPhone fairly quickly. Or rather, add some hardware keyboards to the iPhone and you'll see that balloon in size too.
- 04-14-2007, 10:26 AM #113
- 04-16-2007, 05:22 PM #114
Audio: 0 GB
Other: 400 MB
Free: 7.15 GB
assuming an OS size of 400 MB. The 4 GB iPhone would be something like:
Audio: 0 GB
Other: 400 MB
Free: 3.15 GB
'3.15 GB' might come as a bit of shock to some who bought a '4 GB' iPhone.
This all assuming macwelt are right of course.
- 05-06-2007, 02:29 AM #115
The good news is that both carriers have recently introduced new, much nicer data pricing. Orange have several options including a flat rate of £8 per month:
and Vodafone have a complex system where most users would probably end up paying £1 per day:
I'd characterise this as Orange being pretty cheap, and Vodafone still being bit a expensive, but much, much better than they were before.