- 03-23-2007, 12:33 PM #76
- 03-23-2007, 01:42 PM #77
I just checked, since my HDD crashed last year, my music server has just over 50GB of music. I used to have MUCH more than that, but time doesn't permit me to add to my collection as much as I would like.
To answer the question, 4GB or 8GB is plenty for me and casual listening. I ideally want to be able to carry ALL of my media with me wherever I go. With an iPod or similar MP3 player this is an option, since they have 80GB+ models. I will not be buying an iPhone as I don't use my phone as an MP3 player too much, but I want access to my stuff 24-7. I currently have ORB setup on my server, but the damn thing goes down too much. I assume due to me having more audio files than it really supports. I guess I need to look into some sort of streaming FTP or HTML setup. Anyone have any suggestions.
- 03-25-2007, 05:11 AM #78
Perhaps you can predict in the morning what you're going to want to listen to on the journey home, but I can't
- 03-25-2007, 08:03 AM #79
- 03-25-2007, 08:49 AM #80
- 03-25-2007, 11:40 AM #81
what i don't need is my entire collection of music on my phone. that is what i don't need. if you want your entire collection of music on your phones, great! i'd rather have additional storage for other more applicable and useful files than having every single song available to me that i couldn't ever listen to unless i was doing nothing for very long periods of time!
hey, if having 100gb's of music stored on your phone is important to you then more power to ya! this user can do with LOTS less. it is that simple.
- 03-25-2007, 12:36 PM #82
- 03-25-2007, 12:45 PM #83
Anyway; the whole purpose of syncing is to (well OK, one of the purposes of syncing) is to access new content... new songs you purchase, new CDs you RIP, new movies that are released, new TV shows that get aired,new podcasts, whatever. And a great majority of people will not want to watch the same TV show over and over again. They will want to watch the newest episode that gets aired, so that means they will have to load it onto the iPod or iPhone or Treo or whatever.
THIS MEANS SYNCING.
You have to do it with your Treo, you have to do it with your iPod... you have to do it with your iPhone; so no one can get on this forum and honestly spout off how poorly the iPhone is designed because you have to... *gasp* sync it.
- 03-25-2007, 12:47 PM #84
- 03-25-2007, 09:29 PM #85
I just loaded another 4GB of music, BTW. But what I'm going to do is try again with the smaller amount of music and see if I can do with 2-3GB for the day. But it will mean syncing every night.
Which is why I agree with Marcol and Christina, more is better so you don't have to sync as much.
- 03-26-2007, 07:12 AM #87
sounds like your question has been answered. there will not be enough storage for yourself, marcol, and christina. there will be enough storage for others.
2-3gb just for one day? i have 2.65gb equating to 568 items in my itunes library. holy smokes!
- 03-26-2007, 08:07 AM #88
- 03-26-2007, 11:06 AM #89
- 03-26-2007, 12:38 PM #91
- 03-27-2007, 10:46 AM #92
- 03-27-2007, 10:51 AM #93
Turning our attention to the iPhone now:
Having not experienced the iPhone, all that anyone can go on are specs. This is what people base their judgement of the product on because they cannot see it and experience it and touch it. Apple, Inc. has not, does not, and probably will not ever design a product to compete and beat another company's product specs. But they will design it so that it will be a good experience to use. A warm and human experience. They have done this for 30 years and there is no indication they will change.
- 03-27-2007, 10:51 AM #94
- 03-27-2007, 11:04 AM #95
i respect what it is that you all might say but i have 585 songs occupying 2.65gb's in my itunes library....is it a necessity to have all of them on my pda/phone? i don't think so. my ipod exists for dedicated purposes, i don't expect or require my pda to replace such.
i'm surprised it's such a necessity for so many of you...seriously
I'm surprised too. They are making irrational excuses and trying to defend them with specs and numbers. Actual usage cannot be measured with numbers.
Phone Diva wrote:
Or maybe it's just that you don't live with them, and don't really know what others may need for their own usage. You just assume by what you do that everyone else is the same.
Have you ever heard of the Delphi Method? It is what Steve Jobs uses to judge what comes out of Apple, Inc. It also serves to explain why the iPod nano has proven to be the sweet spot of music players and why that amount of memory is used as the basis for the iPhone.
I DO know what the usage of the majority is. And I might add that it is no accident that my needs happen to fall in line with the products that Apple designs. I AM the majority. And many times I don't know what my needs are until I have used a product from Apple.
No, it is not because I drink the Kool-Aid. It is because Apple knows how to design a product that fits the overwhelming majority's needs; unlike other companies who design the majority's needs to fit their product.
I am not trying to tell you that your desire for unlimited music is dumb, you have the right to want whatever it is that you think you need.
But, it's just that this desire stems from the technolgy's shortcomings.
I'm sure you personally have said it before, but the people here on TreoCentral are a small slice of the many phone (gadget) users, numbering in the billions worldwide. Their needs do not constitute a majority. The members of TreoCentral do not see where the future is going because they are too enamored with specs. Specs do not reveal the usage of a phone.
I suppose I should step off my soap box now because this post is becoming overly analytical and perhaps inappropriate for this particular thread.
Now you can curse me for seemingly insulting TreoCentral users.
- 03-27-2007, 11:06 AM #96
- 03-27-2007, 02:06 PM #97
I'd like to the see the numbers in a year: 8gb vs 4gb. I have a feeling 8gb will top the 4's and something will top the 8's if higher sizes are available (<-- key word)
- 03-27-2007, 03:17 PM #98
- 03-27-2007, 03:27 PM #99
Here were at Treocentral not the majority of users yet a significant piece of the market (at least the "high end" market) and users on here on trying to convince us of how the iPhone is supposed to compete with or replace our current devices.
But like I said in other posts: the iPhone is not in the same class as smartphones/ppcs/pdas/Treos etc. They're aiming at a different market (not the majority as the cellphone majority could never afford an iPod let alone an iPhone).
I'm glad you have at least come around and acknowledged this fact archie.
Seems like just the wrong place period to be having the debate since we constitute a different market with our different needs.
The "future" is whatever the market decides it to be, which usually means a range of devices from simple cell phones, to business orientated smartphones to highend consumer "converged" devices. Much like every other electronics market. Not exactly rocket science arch.
- 03-27-2007, 03:30 PM #100