- 03-08-2007, 03:01 PM #26
Wait, which is it? "A non-replaceable battery will kill the iPhone" or "Battery life is the big limitation" for the iPhone.
I was replying to the former.
Do you also want me to reply to the latter (because the two do not go hand-in-hand when you consider Apple's engineering prowness)?
Typical TreoCentral moving target forum member, waffling about, not realizing or refusing to believe the iPhone will be an incredible product.
- 03-08-2007, 03:59 PM #27
The die hard fan base is going to embrace it simply because it's from Jobs & Co. and its overall performance in the real world isn't going to matter to them (or at least won't keep them from initially buying it).
That is why they are entering the market.
- 03-08-2007, 04:26 PM #28
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- 03-08-2007, 05:10 PM #32
Imagine just phone and internet use with normal backlight? 20 hours?
Yes it's big but you asked. But they wouldn't sell if there wasn't a market for them and people seem happy with that choice.
- 03-08-2007, 09:17 PM #33
I have the "luxury" of handling most stuff by email from my laptop, and not always on the Treo(or any other phone).
IMHO, not likely business people will dump BB and Treos entirely for the iPhone. People need to get work done. You get fired for surfing and watching videos all day and letting your battery run out, unless you're near the top. But even then, you need to receive important calls. What they'll do is get it as a 2nd phone.
I do think jet setters and fashionatas will jump on it.
- 03-09-2007, 12:08 AM #36
See my post here from 2 years ago in regards to their 3% estimation of Apple users purchasing Palm products:
Feel free to peruse that thread Phone Diva because you will also note that I foresee Palm incorporating M$ Windows Mobile before anyone ever thought it was possible. 25% was more like it. They underestimated and only now will they learn of their mistake.
Just last week Morgan Stanley (financial institution) issued a report saying that:
"Palm's Treo phones may be at the greatest risk of all. Beyond sharing features and prices, Palm is also in the unfortunate position of having a disproportionately large number of Apple enthusiasts in its midst. Treo owners are twice as likely to own an iPod or Mac, according to a Morgan Stanley survey, and are much more likely to consider iPhones regardless of their existing Apple product ownership."
On top of that, Nokia's report, from last week as well, stated that "roughly 60 percent of premium phones are used for music on a regular basis". That gives Apple a huge advantage considering they have the number one player and the number one distribution system to back it up... and the number one retail channel... especially when you factor in Cingular.
To make matters worse (for other companies such as Palm that is), no current phone designer has the same kind of devoted fan base as Apple (unless you factor in the ferociousness of "surur" and "Malatesta" of TreoCentral fame ).
And this is to say nothing of the attractiveness and ease of use brought about with Apple's iPhone user interface.
- 03-09-2007, 12:13 AM #37
- 03-09-2007, 12:30 AM #38
I want to look at it, yes.
My one obstacle, ATT and their insistence on selling an expensive locked phone even with a 2 year contract. :censored:
Maybe Apple Store will have testers out like they do all products.
Back on topic somewhat: I've been missing a lot of the ads people say they saw. Maybe the ads will increase as June approaches.
2. I'll say it again. The iPhone will still need to go down in price if people have to sign a 2 year contract. I agree Apple is in a prime position, but many Americans are still cheap when it comes to phones.
3. Sony Ericsson does if you look at HoFo. Sony Ericsson owners also have fan-like websites, LOL! I found 5 websites dedicated to SE lovers.
- 03-09-2007, 05:04 AM #41
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- 03-09-2007, 07:29 AM #43
The iPod and friends miss their battery life claim all the time. Or rather, they "forget" to mention the high end is with almost no backlight usage and no changing through the menu. How many people don't change something and thus have the backlight on temporarily while listening?
If your(whmurray) 680 is unlocked and colored, I'm sure someone will want it since ATT hijacked the entire line!
- 03-09-2007, 09:41 AM #46
- 03-09-2007, 10:31 AM #47
Surur also owns many devices and does not use Palm either. I think we're both tech-enthusiasts with very little company or product devotion. I'd buy a linux phone tomorrow if it did what I needed.
In that sense we are the norm for technology, not Mac users who go just on brand loyalty alone or are locked into Mac interoperability. Having said that Mac computer users still command a tiny percent of the market and iPod users can actually live independently of the Mac-system (even I own a nano).
- 03-09-2007, 12:17 PM #48
It is kind of sad that all of the enthusiasm among the TC community (save for Perry, who believes in the Treo 900) is for the iPhone. There are millions of people who will try one of anything with the Apple brand and no one left with any loyalty to "Palm" (whoever that is this week). Silly season is permanently over. Perry, where are you?
- 03-09-2007, 01:01 PM #49
I bought a 30 GB Ipod video for my wife this Christmas, and she loves it, uses it every day, but never syncs it at all. If the IPhone is the coolest phone in the world I will buy it for her too. I myself will need stronger tools however.
- 03-09-2007, 06:08 PM #50