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the ringtone. hurry up before the lawyers find out.
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I havent seen this of the iphone, hope it isnt a repost. cbs news showing some of what it can do. they dont show the KB and I think I could find a contact a lot sooner on the treo than with the scrolling thing.
You will notice that you do have to go back home before going to another app. mail. . . home . . . internet . . . home . . . photos. . . . home.
Other than being a professoser of marketing, I dont know who Peter Fader is, but I not would call him a fan of the iphone. At least according to this managing technology interview.
a couple of quotes:
Apple is facing a very different market. It's a market that's far more mature than the MP3 Player market was at the time. It's a far more sophisticated customer base. Apple had the opportunity to go into the MP3 market and basically reshape that market and create the standard for customers' tastes and preferences.
Those things have already been done by the myriad players in the cell phone market. Apple can do a very limited amount of reshaping. I think that when this phone actually hits the market, some of the grand visions that Steve Jobs has as well as some of the Apple zealots are going to be rather disappointed.
Well it's not going to be too high for the first few hundred thousand people who just have to have it. You can charge them anything and they'll pay anything. But for the mass market, if they really want to create something that is anywhere close to what the iPod did, it is very expensive.
And, I think on the feature side, it doesn't really have that many features. In fact, it's missing some really, really important features. What it has [going] for it is just a really cool design factor and that's not enough. It's going to help them to differentiate themselves from the other phones out there, but it's not going to be enough to really be a winning entry.
hey, even Apple Fan Boy Leo Laporte has questions about it.
- 01-25-2007, 02:32 PM #4
Its ridiculous in the video how the Apple representative keeps on calling it the most advanced phone ever made because you can look up your contacts, and the most advanced internet communication device ever made.
Apple is all about hype.
- 01-28-2007, 05:38 PM #7
- 02-01-2007, 02:52 PM #8
There is strategy beyond even this however. Most people who use cell phones are in a contract or would be renewing or entering into another over the course of the next 6 months. By pre-announcing, Apple essentially froze the market. This gives them yet another advantage, thousands of people, wait, hundreds of thousands of people will now hold off on the purchase of a Motorola Q or Palm Treo or whatever knowing that they can soon get an Apple iPhone. Motorola does this same kind of thing by preannouncing products (but usually cannot stick to scheduled releases). Apple has proven time and again that they can actually release a product when they say they will release a product... and SOMETIMES they even release it beforehand.
- 02-01-2007, 03:02 PM #9
Not those who know $600 is too much for a likely locked phone. And also those who know that ATT's business practices are turning back into a monopoly. Not to mention the often NON-customer service.
If the iPhone is indeed locked to ATT, NO THANKS!!
- 02-01-2007, 03:32 PM #10
Would you say $650 dollars was too much for a smartphone. Yes, of course you would, I would be inclined to say so as well. Yet that is what Palm charged for the Treo 650 when it came out. There are other phones that are even more expensive like the HTC Hermes or whatever it is called, or the Sony Ericsson i990, or even the new LG that evryone thiinks is just like the iPhone!
Now in regards to AT&T, I don't think it's fair to be judging their service quite yet. Let's wait for the change-over first and then judge.
And as far as monopoly goes, far from it. Less than half doesn't equate to a monopoly. You've also got Qwest, Sprint, T-Mobile, Verizon, CellularOne, Cellular South, Liberty... etc. etc.
- 02-01-2007, 06:13 PM #11
Locked yes. Unlocked, not necessarily. Depends on the features. I personally don't like paying more than $600 though.
As for ATT, it's still Cingular, no matter what they rename it!! Unless they stop their reps from flipping people's accounts and removing features and "forgetting" to tell the customer until they see a huge bill, I still have no real loyalty to them! And how come you get different stories from different reps? Some consistency would be nice! Plus their overpriced locked and branded phones. And ATT had already bought up much of the Midwest and Central parts of the US AGAIN when they were called SBC!! Now they want us to sign up for all in one service: home, DSL and cellular!! The monopoly is coming back slowly and surely.
- 02-02-2007, 06:29 AM #12
- 02-02-2007, 06:58 AM #13
For a contracted, no-memory expansion phone a lot of ppl would choke to see that price now...and is a major reason why Palm came out with the unlocked treo 680 for $399...
a big $100 difference from a 4 GB locked, 2-yr contracted phone (add in those data costs)...it's very overpriced for todays markets and there is no real argument otherwise...they are hoping that the coolness, newness and exclusivity will ring true - if not as it's rumoured to only cost $250 to make, they obviously will drop the ridiculous price if ppl don't bite.
Btw a lot of those phones are more adaptbale than what Apple plans to sell June e.g. se990i is memory-expandable, comes unlocked and 3G plus touchscreens at that price...a different league from the iPhone (what we say) tbh wrt data transfer and adaptability - all they lack is the "cool" software and touchscreen factor.
P.S. it takes a bit more money to make actual physical keyboards too so that iPhone should be at least $50 LESS
- 02-02-2007, 10:57 AM #14
That question is of course hypothetical because my point is that I am sure you do not think we saw the extent of the phones capabilities in that small keynote address.
It wasn't a product briefing, it was a keynote address.
A keynote address is defined as an opening statement that outlines the key issues.
- 02-02-2007, 11:43 AM #15
- 02-02-2007, 11:47 AM #16
- 02-02-2007, 12:41 PM #17
Precisely! And if you know Apple like I know Apple, the best is yet to come. We haven't seen it all.
1) Opportunity to see how competitors respond and react to the iPhone - in this way Apple might get a glimpse of their competitors R & D if that competitor chose to tip their hand. Even more valuable would be how far along their competitors are in certain technologies.
2) Opportunity to monitor the cloners in the far east, who do not follow any of rules for patent or trademark infringment. I think it is great that whether before or after the iPhone's announcement -- many other companies had an opportunity re-introduce similar technology they perhaps introduced before the iPhone. If these technologies are better than the iPhone, economical deterministic forces will bring these products to the surface and give us compelling reasons to take notice.
3) Opportunity to gauge public's perception of the iPhone. I think the public is clueless, but their reactions are valuable and will help form the basis for future iPhone releases. If you ever have a chance to listen to author Malcolm Gladwell, idiscuss the marketing, what will come clear is that there will be more than one iPhone. There will be iPhones (plural). Every multi-national corporation is hip to this. meet Malcolm Gladwell
4) Opportunity to get free marketing of the iPhone -- essentially 6 months of free marketing via blog discussions, news, etc.
- 02-02-2007, 12:58 PM #18
Go with your gut....
My point: It's the same with the iPhone. They don't know. They are skeptical. One poster said there are many unanswered questions. So be it!
- 02-02-2007, 01:04 PM #19
- 02-02-2007, 02:10 PM #20
- 02-02-2007, 02:44 PM #21
And that's exactly why nobody can conclusivley say that the phone can do any of the wonderful things the proponents here seem to be talking about.
Until it's released to the general public, there will be many unanswered questions about what it can and cannot do.
Meaning that much of the stuff people are saying it can or will do is speculation because we haven't seen and tested the device first hand yet. He didn't refute what was shown in the presentation.
Now has anyone here actually received a test unit? THEN we can see what truly up!
- 02-02-2007, 02:44 PM #22
There is no end to the FUD here at TreoCentral.
All I'm saying is that there's two points of view (at least) regarding the iPhone. I respect your opinion of what you think it is going to be (or what you want it to be)... you need to respect mine, and anyone else's, who isn't convinced yet. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
- 02-02-2007, 02:45 PM #23
- 02-02-2007, 03:16 PM #24
Do you understand my point?
What baffles me is that people here on TreoCentral deny everything that I say. Everything that I say has been fact. If you disagree, I invite you (challenge you) to point out what you think is not fact in any of my posts.
And in the very near future, you might imagine what my new choice of a solution might be, but with that, I must digress.
- 02-02-2007, 03:23 PM #25