- 06-16-2007, 01:36 PM #101
- 06-16-2007, 01:37 PM #102
- 06-16-2007, 01:42 PM #103
Archie, as you can see from the other's post, I was right about the SDK out before the OS.
You have never done any development, have you? You don't even understand the basics of the industry.
I am an Apple Developer too. I got it along with a secret decoder ring inside a box of Cap'n Crunch. It means absolutely nothing, and you pulling that card is an insult to every true Apple developer out there.
When you learn the diffence between an OS, SDK and API, as well as how software development takes place in the industry, come back.
Until then, just keep the comments related to the "iPhone is cool" vein.
- 06-16-2007, 01:42 PM #104
- 06-16-2007, 01:43 PM #105
You really don't know what you are talking about, you don't even understand why you are wrong. A little knowledge is dangerous.
- 06-16-2007, 02:07 PM #106
You are second guessing and projecting what you would like me to say or something... I don't know... something weird... I don't know what is going on here but what you are claiming that I said is NOT what I said.
I am not sure why everybody feels the need to gang up on me. Except for maybe that I am always right and you look for every miniscule opportunity to find me wrong.
PS: It is certainly possible that you misunderstood what I said.
- 06-16-2007, 02:16 PM #107
- 06-16-2007, 07:21 PM #108
- 06-16-2007, 07:23 PM #109
- 06-16-2007, 08:16 PM #110
- 06-16-2007, 08:46 PM #111
- 06-16-2007, 09:02 PM #112
I mean, he expects the IPhone shell to be made out of Zirconia (really!):crazy:
He claims to be an "interactive designer" or some such. To me he is the prototype of an Apple fanboy: Clueless, and living in a RDF.
- 06-16-2007, 09:50 PM #113
Let's not limit that to Apple fanboys. Delusional is delusional. And I don't think he is being dishonest in stating what he believes to be true, he just doesn't know the truth. Nor do I imagine he takes the time to find it out.
Everyone should be a bit upset that you can't install 3rd party apps in the iPhone. This affects what you can ultimately do with the device. And Steve Jobs is IMHO being dishonest when he states why it isn't open for development. This is an interesting take. and I tend to agree. It sure as hell makes more sense than some asinine idea like 'no SDK exists because the APIs are still underdevelopment until several months after it is released to the public' moronic nonsense which may sound good to someone who doesn't work in software development but is BS to anyone with a clue.
- 06-16-2007, 09:57 PM #114
- 06-16-2007, 10:00 PM #115
- 06-16-2007, 10:10 PM #116
This is new ground for Apple and the iPhone could take off huge, I'm sure no one expected the marked domination of the iPod. For them to be protectionist about the user experience and other's access to iPhone innards does make sense. For the consumer though it isn't a good thing.
- 06-16-2007, 10:43 PM #117
You are all freaking clueless.
Web apps are interpreted. Apps that are on the OS are compiled. They can't let developers do this because LLVM is not completely integrated (finished) yet.
Can you comprehend.
I explained this very thing weeks ago and actually first brought it up back in January before anyone even knew what LLVM was.
- 06-17-2007, 06:27 AM #118
- 06-17-2007, 09:15 AM #119
Maybe if you shout a little louder, we could comprehend...
I can certainly comprehend you like to use insulting profanity.
So this all hinges on LLVM, which is not ready, which is why it cannot go to developers?
But it's "done" enough for Apple to release the iPhone?
In the big scheme of things, this no different than a Mac having no expansion slots and later the wonderful NuBus cards. This is all about control and $$ (which I cast no judgement on, just observing this is Apple's model in device development.)
- 06-17-2007, 09:21 AM #120
The iPod dominated once it was released on Windows. That is where most iPod sales come from.
I would argue that iTunes was the reason for the success as much as the hardware device itself.
It's sad to see them screw up ITunes with more features, clutter. KISS.
- 06-17-2007, 09:57 AM #121
- 06-17-2007, 10:05 AM #122
Remember when we thought the Foleo had fold-able screens because of patents? In the end we were not being realistic. Plastic is as radio-lucent as Zirconium, as is much more realistic as a construction material.
Thinking Apple is using Zirconium indicates a farm of fantastical idealization which is common only in fan boys.
- 06-17-2007, 10:06 AM #123
- 06-17-2007, 10:56 AM #124
but zirconium is much more durable/resilient/hard than plastic plus it's radio-lucent.....i suppose all i'm saying is that it's not a stretch to get there....is it? i really am not arguing whether they will or they won't, just sayin' that i don't think it's all that crazy to state such (given the patent).
- 06-19-2007, 03:52 PM #125