A few things confirmed....
Here is a Faq that David Pogue from the NY times put together after having hands on time with the device and talking to Steve Jobs. Wow the luster is coming off the iPhone alittle for me now. Highlights..
1. will not sync with outlook at all (OH NOOOOO)
2. no iChat support at all
3. no voice dialing
4. no flash or java support in browser (WHY?)
5. Cant open word or excel docs.
6. Unit must be sent in to Apple to replace battery
7. No third party apps
- 01-12-2007, 11:58 AM #2
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- 01-12-2007, 12:38 PM #6
Despite the lack of those features, users of this device will be happy and satisfied. Jobs is focusing on what Palm has not delivered - control and stability and he is staying consistent with the process established with iPod.
And iPod-like sites will come up and be full of third party fixit stuff to allow what normally be dependent on Apple alone.
- 01-12-2007, 01:42 PM #7
"... Jobs hints that Cingular may offer different billing plans for iPhone, though for now he isnít saying for sure. In any case, Jobs said, 'Thereís no reason we couldnít have iChat on here."
"Jobs says we can expect more apps on the phone by the time it ships in June. (For instance, one might expect the iPhone to allow users to view Word documents, something that the prototype doesnít do today)"
- 01-12-2007, 01:44 PM #8
- 01-12-2007, 02:10 PM #9
I think it's entertaining to see all these posts about all the stuff they already "hate" about this device, even though the very few in circulation are only prototypes. I'm glad I'm open minded enough to see this product for what it IS - a consumer oriented smart (ish?) phone that does stuff in a different way than Palm or HTC or Sony or Moto or etc.
Even Jobs suggested that the "iPhone" may have some different features by the time it hits shelves - they have 5 months to further it's development, after all.
- 01-12-2007, 02:16 PM #10
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- 01-12-2007, 03:01 PM #12
Thats far from saying it will be there.
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Nokia does between 3.2 and 5. The Iphone cant even do video, and doesnt have autofocus. And guess what, the Nokia can do third party apps also. 320x480 screen, when others do VGA. Itunes, but no digital TV tuners, as are becoming more common now? 4-8 GB flash, when Samsung has done 8 GB for a while now.
IPhone has the Ipod going for it, and some flashy demos. Thats all.
- 01-12-2007, 11:29 PM #16
IMHO Apple has rarely innovated in the hardware near as much as they do in the "user experience" - that overall blend of features and functions which make the device a natural extension of what the user wants to do.
The result is that they make the UI so natural that typically little training is needed. The opposite is the purely spec-driven products which can do amazing things but at the cost of stability, consistency, and natural feel.
The iPod was certainly not the first multi-GB MP3 player either (I had the 5GB Archos Jukebox for 3 years before it). What made it wildly successful was the looks, footprint, natural ease-of-use and more importantly, iTunes. The whole package made it easy for the non-tech folks out there.
And that, I think, is the point. The iPhone was not designed or marketed for us techno-geeks or the pure business-oriented types who need email but don't realize their device can do web browsing. Rather, it's marketed as a mass consumer device to the non-tech folks who just use it out of the box and never add 3rd party apps (unless of course, their tech-savvy Significant Other does it for them).
Will it be successful? Most likely although I think it's priced pretty high for the consumer crowd. No doubt they had to avoid cannibilizing iPod sales - probably why Cingular can't provide subsidies either.
In the end, I think it will provide more competition in the high-end multifunction converged device category but mainly serve to expand and segment the market rather than drive any of the existing players out. Of course, if existing players don't continue to innovate as well, the process of natural selection will determine their fate.
- 01-13-2007, 01:39 AM #17
The third party stuff is frankly not fix-it stuff. The datebook that comes with Palm is an excellent program - it does exactly what it is suppose to. However, there are those of us who want more - not to fix it, we just need more.
The dialer works fine, I just want more. Memos does fine, I just want more.
Very few people stick with only the default applications. We also have a desire to play games, listen to music, et cetera. And the great thing is that there is always a developer out there with a different approach to the same problem and that means continued development.
So hang the trash about fix-it.
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- 01-14-2007, 12:32 PM #21
Ok, my mistake and I apologize. When I first started playing with Treos, I had problems. My 650 was a problem from the get-go until I worked out the NVFS problems. My 700p gave me one day of total fits when I first go it (set it up from my 650's backup). Once the bugs problems got worked out, it has been a very stable device. Once in a while a lag, I live with it. Once in a while the clearing of the db cache (flushing) results in a file getting lost (hence On Guard Backup). I do not suffer problems of reliability because of the effort in setting it up I put forth. As for playing with new apps, I also do that, but I almost always backup before playing.
- 01-14-2007, 02:50 PM #22