- 01-11-2007, 08:57 PM #51
I feel like Spider in Goodfellas: "No, no, I thought you said 'hey Spider, I'm ok Spider.'" LOL Sorry!
- 01-11-2007, 09:05 PM #52
Bottom line is that there are a zillion different phones because variety is a good thing. The iPhone will do very well, no doubt, but, for any number of reasons, it's not the last word on phones or converged devices.
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- 01-11-2007, 09:27 PM #53
- 01-11-2007, 09:36 PM #54
I've never been a mac lover like most folks here and my first and only treo is a 700w, but I think that msft might be the one to help palm out with a new version of windows mobile. This iphone is a threat to all wm5 based phones and I think that if anyone is going to come back firing it will be the boys from redmond and not palm and their os.
- 01-11-2007, 09:50 PM #55
Not so with the iPhone - to my knowledge, anyway.
I've got many reasons to pass on the iPhone (whether I ultimately do or do not). Gunk is just one of them.
- 01-11-2007, 10:41 PM #56
Ah. Ok. I understand now.
Well, I've got my iPod wrapped in a full-length screen protector. I'm thinking that something like this for the iPhone would work even better (no scroll wheel for the stuff to lay on unevenly). That, or a holster-style case might be the ticket. But, I see what you're saying.
Wouldn't it be sweet if the iPhone were really scratch-resistant?
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- 01-12-2007, 05:10 AM #57
- 01-12-2007, 01:05 PM #58
What all of the other manufacturers have been making is a phone...looked the same for some 50 years now...yeah they are different but all in all show me a phone and I know it's a phone. Show me an iPhone and I'm not quite sure what it is until you tell me. Apple just pulled the rug out from under them...take everyday technology but put a wow spin on it and see the buzz you can create. I like the iPhone...it looks cool...I almost got mad at my 6700 for not looking as cool...but then my 6700 chimed in with a push email from my corporate server and allowed me to open my Word and PDF documents and let me work/play without needing a laptop on a business trip. So to thank the 6700 for being the best friend that it is...we went out and had a beer together...where I could change the channel on the bar's TV through my infrared port...all while driving the bartender crazy trying to figure out how the TV changed. <Looking at the 6700...sniff> I love you man.
Do that with your stinking iPhone. The iPhone is cool and it will sell very well. Especially for the younger crowd...if they can find the funds to pony up for this sticker shock queen and deal with the ineptitude of Cingular. Then again...kids haven't had much trouble coming up with cash or enough guilt-on-the-parentals to buy iPods and cell phones before. All in all I see this as a great toy...but not a business tool yet. This is really geared at the GAP and Abercrombie crowd...to make it in business it has to be a real smartphone. You have to have IT support of it and you have to have business capabilities. In it's current form the iPhone will not be a smartphone...it is smarter than a phone...but not a smartphone. The ability to add apps and support business uses is key to that moniker. It is still cool and it is still pretty but it hasn't supplanted my 6700. As button-y and sliding keyboard-y as it is...with no real eye candy...I can still play MP3s on it and leave my laptop behind...welcome to the party but we'll see you next year.
- 01-12-2007, 01:53 PM #59
2. no iChat support at all
3. no voice dialing
4. no flash or java support in browser (WHY?)
5. Cant open word or excel docs.
6. Unit must be sent in to Apple to replace battery
7. No third party apps
I don't care about the first two, as I have no experience with iChat and I don't trust Outlook for my personal use (which is what I use my Treo for).
Voice dialing is an absolute necessity.
NO flash or java sounds anachronistic in such a Jetsons-esque device.
Word and Excel compatibility is a must.
I wanna be able to change my batteries without having my hand held (ouch; unintended pun). Shame on Apple for this one, though.
It sounds like there are enough things missing for third-party apps to be a necessity. Too bad they're verboten.
- 01-12-2007, 02:36 PM #60
Your list of apps won't play a video, for instance. These other folks will have to have TCPMP or something to say that their's compares.
I think that was his point, people comparing thier Treos to this saying it's not an advancement are citing a heavily modded Treo as comparison. To the consumers that don't want to bother with adding anything, this is a huge advance when you compare them out of the box.
- 01-12-2007, 02:42 PM #61
This doesn't excuse not making the battery removable however, just an FYI.
I don't recall seeing it stated that they will never allow 3rd party development. Seems strange if it's running some flavor of OSX which already has thousands of "widgets". I would think that they're limiting it now to get the OS bugs worked out and that 3rd party will come later (and I'm not saying that's acceptable, but at least allows for quick and easier fixes for rev. 1).
- 01-12-2007, 03:07 PM #62
- 01-12-2007, 03:31 PM #63
"What all of the other manufacturers have been making is a phone...looked the same for some 50 years now...yeah they are different but all in all show me a phone and I know it's a phone. "
I own a VisorPhone. Trust me, I have to explian what it is to everyone who sees it.
- 01-12-2007, 03:53 PM #64
- 01-12-2007, 04:17 PM #65