- 01-11-2007, 05:56 PM #51
1) even existing customers have to sign a new 2 year contract
2) new customers of course do too
no one year for this device.
- 01-11-2007, 06:59 PM #52
- 01-12-2007, 12:32 AM #53
- 01-12-2007, 03:34 AM #54
Be skeptical, fine, but in the absence of any other data and the fact that Apple has been pretty good about their battery life claims, why shouldn't it be cited? No one's claiming that it's the EXACT amount you'll get...
There's a review of the Cingular 750 on the front page here on Treocentral that cites Palm's claim on talk time and just tempers that with normal skepticism:
""...Palm says that this should give you about 4 hours of talk time and 250 hours of standby - though it's likely that if you're in a market with 3G UMTS service that standby time may be a bit worse."
I don't see why we shouldn't compare their claim to other phones proven times....
- 01-12-2007, 07:45 AM #55
- 01-12-2007, 08:36 AM #56
How is my refrigerator innovative? How is my regular TV innovative? Give me a break, we're talking about phones here: they make and take calls, that's it. Are you going to make 'better' calls with the iPhone? Does that even mean anything? But this is where you mac cultists cross over from enjoying your (non-existent) product to attacking everyone else's choice.
And if you're actually happy with the 700wx (like I am) then your argument really holds no water. I guess you just need fancy, shiny objects with whizz-wow graphics to impress you. Some of us are more subtle.
- 01-12-2007, 09:13 AM #57
- 01-12-2007, 09:23 AM #58
I do like Wm5 (or rather, I'm content with it) but I own a Treo 650 too and I'm a big fan of anything that lets me use the latest technology out there. This doesn't do that and there is no way I'm switching to Cingular.
That's really my only beef here:
- Higher Cingular fees (data and voice)
- Less coverage (for myself)
- No 4g or even 3g on the iPhone
- No prospect of Sling and VOIP (but this could change)
All the rest of the potential issues? Giant screen, battery life, keyboard, closed system, 2-year contract, high price etc. I'm willing to let slide for now and give it a chance when it actually comes out to hear from users.
I'd be giving up a lot to get this thing. We'll see in 2009 when Cingular's exclusive is up though...
- 01-12-2007, 09:47 AM #59
- 01-12-2007, 09:54 AM #60
You have to read this article to understand the ramifications of Sprint and Wimax: it could really change the mobile industry on the ISP end like iPhone will do on the consumer end.
Sprint and WiMax: Are these guys serious?
WiMAX World: Sprint targets Chicago, D.C.
No way am I missing this thing :thumbsup:
- 01-12-2007, 12:36 PM #61
- 01-12-2007, 02:13 PM #62
The 700w was popular yet a failure but was a nice first attempt. The 700wx, with it's nearly tripled memory, fixed the main complaint and is one of the most popular WM5 devices out in the US market. Many users are happy with the 700wx compared to other WM5 devices.
Only big issue: Bluetooth could be better. All else is nearly perfect, imo.
Considering how much their WM5 devices have displaced their PalmOS devices, I'd consider them to be a success. They are certainly better and more thought out than HTC devices since they "fixed" a lot of WM5 shortcomings and made them more user friendly.
What do you find a failure about the 700wx or 750 series?
- 01-12-2007, 02:19 PM #63
- 01-12-2007, 02:28 PM #64
- 01-12-2007, 02:49 PM #65
- 01-12-2007, 02:52 PM #66
- 01-12-2007, 03:46 PM #67
- 01-12-2007, 04:00 PM #68
BT 2.0: Even I said the BT was the one area that needed improvement
Wifi: is nice to have and SDIO wifi is at least possible. Still, I find EvDO more convenient.
Of course there is room for improvement on the 700wx/750, no one is denying that. But to call it a "failure" because you find it too heavy or has no wifi (neither of which bother me or others who own it)? That's a bit stringent and possibly over exaggerating.
Can I call the iPhone a failure b/c it has no 3g then? Or because I can't install software, run GPS or that it's on Cingular and service is poor and more expensive? Fair is fair.
- 01-12-2007, 04:01 PM #69
I am suprised no one has made a big deal about the bluetooth in this thing. Its going to have BT 2.0 EDR.
The only phone that I know of that has BT with that level of power is the Razr. Basically, EDR should allow you to be ~200-300 feet from your phone using your headset (with a quality BT headset).
This is a VERY big deal.
Note: I am 99% sure I will never buy this phone.
- 01-12-2007, 04:08 PM #70
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- 01-12-2007, 04:29 PM #72
Hmmm...so when the battery juice runs out we shall have to mail it back and wait what? 2-3 weeks turnaround plus the expense? I hope some of you keep your old phones! This phone will make a good secondary phone for my treo..but replace it? I doubt...maybe a 3G one with replaceable battery and 3rd party apps (which was one off the main reasons I got a treo rather than say a P910i or E62)...seems they don't intend to allow much:
- 01-12-2007, 04:33 PM #73
Developing countries provide a large slice of the pie (ask Nokia - that's why they're one of the biggest companies worldwide)...a locked GSM is crazy..I hope someone figures ut how to unlock it fast...apple has shout us out really! :thumbsdn:
- 01-12-2007, 06:34 PM #74
- 01-12-2007, 06:39 PM #75