NextDream
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It's like Jobs said at the end of his presentation. Quoting Gretzky....We see where the puck is going, they see where it was.
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Finally , someone to kick and seriously challenge Treo's and kick palm 's ...
This phone will sell like hot cakes.............
I am so pleased . No more half *** phones...
he Palm Treo "OWNeD" the smartphone space with one serious competitor - BlackBerry. This is the kick in the pants that they needed.
This comment may sound stupid as first but something I've been researching but have yet to find; can you add appointments, contacts, to do items, and memos from the phone or does it only sync items you entered on your Mac?
To me this is a big deal. So far all I've seen mentioned is it pulls data from you Mac. If I have to write information down on a piece of paper and wait until I get back to my computer to enter it then I don't think the iPhone is for me. And without being able to do stuff like that I'm not 100% sure it would be the Treo killer.
Like I said it sounds stupid that you wouldn't be able to add data "on the road" but I've yet to see this feature mentioned.
--Dave
Two drawbacks. iPhone is too expensive with a contract. And on only one carrier. I hope they realize this may not be good. While the features are definitely a breath of fresh air, how many people will switch carriers and pay that much money to do so?
But I do wonder if Ed was laughing yesterday.
However, Ed has to know .................
GSM users pay extra for the freedom to switch carriers. Many of us have shunned GSM Treos that were locked to a carrier.The single carrier thing is good and bad. Since the phone is GSM (necessary for the world market), the only other network it COULD have worked with in the US is TMobile, which has a far smaller customer base anyway. But still, there are customers who simply won't switch carriers, so there's a loss there.
However, granting Cingular exclusivity allows Steve to dictate hardware and software to Cingular on HIS terms. He gets to make the phone HE wants to make, as opposed to Palm, who constantly has to compromise to meet the carriers' demands.
In Europe and Asia, I imagine the phone will work everywhere and with everyone, since it's a far more open market.
Well, one way to make the iPhone exclusive to Cingular is to ensure that it will only accept a SIM from Cingular. If it is successful, then in the world market, it will have to be unlocked. That is likely two years off in any case.The single carrier thing is good and bad. Since the phone is GSM (necessary for the world market), the only other network it COULD have worked with in the US is TMobile, which has a far smaller customer base anyway. But still, there are customers who simply won't switch carriers, so there's a loss there.
However, granting Cingular exclusivity allows Steve to dictate hardware and software to Cingular on HIS terms. He gets to make the phone HE wants to make, as opposed to Palm, who constantly has to compromise to meet the carriers' demands.
In Europe and Asia, I imagine the phone will work everywhere and with everyone, since it's a far more open market.
However, granting Cingular exclusivity allows Steve to dictate hardware and software to Cingular on HIS terms. He gets to make the phone HE wants to make, as opposed to Palm, who constantly has to compromise to meet the carriers' demands.
In Europe and Asia, I imagine the phone will work everywhere and with everyone, since it's a far more open market.
Well, to someone who paid $700- for a 600, $700- for a 650, and $400- for a 680 that he does not even use, the price is not too high. I look forward to the chance to pay it. I can pay it with the increase in value of my 100 shares of Apple stock in the one hour that it took Jobs to talk about it.Two drawbacks. iPhone is too expensive with a contract. And on only one carrier. I hope they realize this may not be good. While the features are definitely a breath of fresh air, how many people will switch carriers and pay that much money to do so?
But I do wonder if Ed was laughing yesterday.
Does Cingular's commitment to the iPhone explain why we have not seen a UMTS/POS Treo? Has Palm lost a carrier as well as share?
Well, to someone who paid $700- for a 600, $700- for a 650, and $400- for a 680 that he does not even use, the price is not too high. I look forward to the chance to pay it.
However, like the iPod and new Treos, this price is the early adopter price. Apple understands and uses pricing better than most. While the price of iPods has come down and the value has gone up, the street price of iPods (and Macs) is always very close to the MSRP.
Ed is probably still laughing but only because he doesn't get it. I am sympathetic; I did not get the iPod. I sold all but a 100 shares of my Apple stock.
Symbian is a closed system and I will buy WM sometime after I vote for Hilary for president. However, that is not to say I will never do either. It is all about the alternative. Having OS X as an alternative is great.I don't know about that. I think it's Palm OS's own limitations. If Palm had kept their own OS and developed it, things might have been very different! Cobalt running on UMTS possibly. So now it's going to be WM, Symbian and Mobile OS X fighting for top spot.
I do not use it because it does not compete with my 650. I do not use it because I could not get it to work with any of my four BT headsets. I do not use it because I have learned to live with the memory on my 650. I do not use it because the battery life is too short. I do not use it because it will not sync to my 650 configuration or use my software and licenses.Why don't you use your 680? That was the best price ever for a Treo!