- 11-24-2006, 04:31 PM #51
- 11-24-2006, 09:09 PM #52
Archie- You seem to be describing a sync similar to Exchange Server SP2 AUTD technology from Microsoft. I wouldn't be surprised to see it from apple, there is no question that the smartphone market continues to rise.
Now, I am not an apple fan, but I am well aware that those who use Mac's are very loyal. Apple knows this also, and if it can start carving a niche in this market, they will profit off of it in the long run. I see the "Iphone" as an ipod with a phone, not a PDA w/an ipod. If they do make a smartphone, it won't be the iphone.
If apple were to figure out how to make the "best " smartphone out there today, learning from Palm and Microsoft's mistakes, then kudos to them. If it will sync with Windows, I will buy it. I don't owe MS anything, no need to argue and give half-a$$ed comments about a device that doesn't exist yet!
I only bring this up here because the information seems to have flooded the net this week; but as you all know by now, a few of Apple's phone details have escaped. Hardware-wise, Kevin Rose of diggnation revealed that Apple will allay everyone's fears that a music player/phone combo could be disasterous (despite what every Hong Kong user thinks) because of the music features draining battery life and then being stuck without use of a phone. Apple had the foresight to actually supply two seperate batteries to power the phone features and the music features. Seems to be such a simple solution - yet no one has thought of it... until now.
And we also now know that Apple will be able to cater to the multiple phone markets because it will be able to work on most any network (like GPRS, GSM, Sprint PCS, Wi-Fi or even WiMax) utilizing Intel's software-defined radio for adaptability... and to also cut costs.
It seems that Apple will be releasing 2 models:
one model will be priced at $249 with 4GB of flash memory
another model at $449 will have an additional 4GB of memory and additional features
BUT... as you all know, this is all just speculation at this point and I am in no position to pronounce what the future holds for Apple or what Apple holds for the future.
- 12-04-2006, 02:46 PM #54iPhone Nanite
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I think by looking for an apple feature list to determine it if will be successful, or a threat to existing smart phones most of you have already missed the mark. Certainly it is this lack of foresight that will bite ED in the butt, yet again.
Let's look at the iPod for some perspective.
Is the iPod the least expensive player in the market? No, every model is more expensive than many competitors for each given model.
Is the iPod the most feature filled player? No. No bluetooth, no radio, no recording, etc, etc.
Is the iPod the most reliable. No. They have certainly been plagued with battery issues and let's not forget the issues with the early nano's gettign scratched.
In short, Apple could pretty much release a complete dog of a phone with a pretty case, and people will buy it in significant enough numbers that Palm, and every other handset manufacturer will feel a definate impact from it.
I can't imagine whi it would even be a debate. People are stupid. If it has an apple logo on it, the first gen will be snapped up enthusiastically. The real question is will Apple come out with a good enough product to compel people to buy a second one and brag about it to their friends.
- 12-06-2006, 12:01 AM #56
We'll Just Have To See
I'll have to disagree with you playa... Apple makes great products. But the product is not just a device you hold in your hand. For every negative, there's 2 positive that drives their products. The invention of a delivery system beginning at the iPod click-wheel, on thru the iTunes client Software, on to the iTunes internet Music Store was brilliant. Add in the invention of podcasting and most importantly the savvy to convince the music industry that they were going to lose their industry to illegal downloading and you have the makings of a great product. In the end, Bluetooth, scratches, wifi and batteries become meaningless when people like my "grandmother" can figure this stuff out.
Five+ years ago, the music industry was bleeding red and on its way to hell. I was fat downloading on Napster. Apple helped save the music industry by making the legal downloading experience "cool."
Now....regarding the iPhone..... These guys are going to make a compelling product. No doubt! Steve Jobs has been carrying this thing around since last Spring showing it and rallying his friends. But like the Macintosh, it's not for everybody. Neither is Cingular's 8525 or Blackberry Pearl for everybody. At least certainly not for me. But I plan to give the Apple iPhone a look.
What would be most unfortunate is if Apple manages in "one try" to deliver a PDA/iPhone that is superior to Palm's nearly 20 years of mastery and expertise in this area. That would be Ed Colligan's signal to then start crying.
Like a unique Push IMAP service and collaboration with Yahoo to be the only mobile device to freely access Yahoo's IMAP services. We will see the incorporation of Apple's own .Mac services soon enough. Unique contact access and interface elements. You should really check it out.
- 01-09-2007, 05:10 PM #58
That said, June is a long way off and I am still on my 650. Any offers for my 680?
- 01-09-2007, 08:49 PM #59
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- 01-09-2007, 10:52 PM #64
This comment may sound stupid as first but something I've been researching but have yet to find; can you add appointments, contacts, to do items, and memos from the phone or does it only sync items you entered on your Mac?
To me this is a big deal. So far all I've seen mentioned is it pulls data from you Mac. If I have to write information down on a piece of paper and wait until I get back to my computer to enter it then I don't think the iPhone is for me. And without being able to do stuff like that I'm not 100% sure it would be the Treo killer.
Like I said it sounds stupid that you wouldn't be able to add data "on the road" but I've yet to see this feature mentioned.
- 01-10-2007, 01:07 AM #65
Two drawbacks. iPhone is too expensive with a contract. And on only one carrier. I hope they realize this may not be good. While the features are definitely a breath of fresh air, how many people will switch carriers and pay that much money to do so?
But I do wonder if Ed was laughing yesterday.
- 01-10-2007, 02:21 AM #66
- 01-10-2007, 02:29 AM #67
However, granting Cingular exclusivity allows Steve to dictate hardware and software to Cingular on HIS terms. He gets to make the phone HE wants to make, as opposed to Palm, who constantly has to compromise to meet the carriers' demands.
In Europe and Asia, I imagine the phone will work everywhere and with everyone, since it's a far more open market.
- 01-10-2007, 06:49 AM #68
No CEO in history has ever had a better source of intelligence than Ed has in TC and used it less. Ed's assessment of the iPhone ranks up there with George Bush and WMDs (except nobody dies). (I woke with a migraine today.)
- 01-10-2007, 06:56 AM #69
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- 01-10-2007, 07:09 AM #71
Palm will be out of the running of phones with new technology quite soon at this rate. They are seriously headed that way already. A 3G radio in an otherwise older body is what the 750 really is. The multi-band 3G and keyboard are really what make the 750, but the 8525 has the same thing and more. If I weren't worried about the slider possibly wearing out, I'd have gotten the 8525 long ago.
- 01-10-2007, 07:09 AM #72
However, like the iPod and new Treos, this price is the early adopter price. Apple understands and uses pricing better than most. While the price of iPods has come down and the value has gone up, the street price of iPods (and Macs) is always very close to the MSRP.
Ed is probably still laughing but only because he doesn't get it. I am sympathetic; I did not get the iPod. I sold all but a 100 shares of my Apple stock.
- 01-10-2007, 07:14 AM #73
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- 01-10-2007, 07:29 AM #75
I am not sure that Palm will be able to step up to this challenge. The stock market seems to believe that they cannot. If they can and do, we are really off to the races. In any case, Ed's dismissal of Apples ability to enter the market is not hopeful.