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Old 12-03-2008, 05:57 PM
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Hey Guys,

I'm still finishing up my time with the T-Mobile G1, but figured I'd get a headstart over here at TiPb.com.

So here's the deal...

a) I bought an iPhone 3G the day it came it out. I'd hate to be though of as a pure fan boy, so figured this was the best way to know thy competition.

b) I've never hooked it up to MobileMe (not sure on that stuff at all or how it works) - I just had it imaped to my gmail.

c) Have installed some different apps on it, but not too many. I have a few fun ones like Ocarina, Crayon Physics, Super Monkey Ball, CroMag racing. I also own a Mac and an Apple TV, so hooked up the Apple Remote app.

d) When I want to, I can type on it pretty quick. but i hold with my left hand and peck with my right. any recommendations on technique/device usage to be super speedy and accurate?

e) Despite all of the above, it really sits on my desk and collects dust. I pay a monthly bill on it and don't use it.

So basically, I like to *think* I know my way around an iPhone 3G, but push come to shove I've never really been able to make it work the way I want to use a smartphone in my life. I find as a communication tool (making phone calls, writing emails, etc.) it's just too darn slow compared to a BlackBerry and though the web browser is fast and does a great job rendering pages, my Bold does a good enough job that it gets me by ok.

I want you guys to sell me on this thing. Let me know

a) what do I have to do make it all push email and fast
b) is there anything i can to so the device "calls to me" like my BlackBerry does? better notifications when I get an email, make it be a more efficient communication tool?
c) what are the WOW apps I have to try. Not just games, but stuff that is mind boggling cool
d) are there any tricks, must-dos, must-knows that i should be aware of with this device that I may not be aware of?
e) How do i take screencaps??
f) anything else??

Appreciate the help guys!

Kevin

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Hey Kevin, I'll give you some quick info here to get you started:

a) MobileMe or a Exchange account - You could use a Yahoo account but technically that's not true push and is not very reliable.
b) The only way you will be able to get more notifications is by jailbreaking - if you want to know more about that and how to go about it you know how to reach me.
c) Try out Google Earth, Google Mobile App, Movie Challenge - yes, it's a game but very very well done.), Urban Spoon, MobileFiles - if you have access to iDisk on a Mac...
d) I'll let other forum members give you the run down on tips and tricks - I could sit here all night listing stuff.
e) Hold the top power button down while tapping the home key - the screen will flash and put the photo in the camera roll.
f) On the contrary to what Dieter said about not being able to keep wi-fi on with the radio off - you can - in settings turn off the radio and then turn the wi-fi on. If you have wi-fi on and turn off the radio for some reason that shuts off ALL data connections.
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Crackberry Kevin!

Good to see you again. Former Curve owner (sister now has it) and daily reader over at crackberry.com

I think you are going to enjoy using this phone. Maybe... just maybe, you will trade in your blackberrys and use this SUPERIOR device.

BadAsh gave you some great tips.

I will add a few.

1.As far as typing, I hold the phone almost fully in my right hand but rest it in the crease between my fingers and my palm. put your right pinky underneath the that way, my right thumb can get the whole screen if I want. basically if you have a thumb, you should be able to type almost solely with the right thumb (my fingers are really short). Now, I support the left side of the phone with my left hand and sometimes use the left thumb to take a few keys off the left side, maybe to the EDC line. Now the pics I used my left hand to take the picture, so I couldnt show you the left hand but its just there mostly for support.

I can type pretty fast, see if it works for you.

Also, if you have some sort of case/holder that you can keep the phone in and type, its easier. I bought a holster that I have to pull the phone out and type on it naked, and its a little slippier with no case. throw it in a leather case and I think you will love it.

also, if you really want landscape for email, go get easy-writer from the app store.

2. Some of my favorite apps are: Facebook, Folders (by Ractors), CoolIris is really cool, Fring, Ifish, TapDefense and of course SnowReports. I guess im not blown away by any apps, I expect my apps to be good. I suppose trying to find a good app with the Blackberry is a little harder... (looks to the sky.. nods and remembers)

3. You have to Jailbreak. If you were gonna own one, you know you would. So you gotta do it. I have a mac theme running, my own wallpaper, dim wallpaper, cycorder for the video recorder (which dieter said the iphone doesnt have) and all sorts of fun stuff. In fact, I have christmas lights flashing around the border of mine right now.... No WAY you can do some of this stuff on any Blackberry.

4. BadAsh will probably know where it is, but I even saw a program to edit word, excel and all of your favorite microsoft files. I forget where now.

Seriously, as a Mac user, you should love this phone. I know you arent brain-washed like Dieter. Come to the light, Kevin!!!


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Kev already knows me... hehe. I went back to Crack!

A) Push... well you can get push w/o MobileMe and Exchanging using Mobile2Web, but I've never messed with it as I have and use both Me & Yahoo. With this method you should be able to get push for Gmail. You forward your messages to an exchange or yahoo account for push.

B) Jailbreak is the way to go and QuickPwn 2.2 is the best method. You can then download IntelliSync for today type action. Sorry no "led" action.

C) Apps I like and used:
WordPress - Blog from the iPhone, great app.
WeatherEye - Just as good on the iPhone.
Twitterriffic - Twitterberry for the iPhone.
iBowl - Awesome free game. I was addicted.
1Password - Password storage.
NetNewsWire - Yes, pretty awesome substitute for Viigo.

Shazam - my favorite app. Always recognizes the song and saves them in a list for downloading later.

Another thing you don't have to worry about it memory leaks and app space. Go app crazy. I went 40+ apps and it didn't slow me down one bit (except when backing up the data, lol)

D) Carry your usb cable, lol. Although I noticed 2.2 is improved battery, still carry a spare just in case.

You can easily create "launchers" like the BB by going to the webpage and then hitting the "+" symbol and then hitting "Add to Home Screen" You can also use clipalizer to create icons if the website doesn't support it. Chase (my bank) and NFL.com do, both I've done the "launcher" for.

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a) what do I have to do make it all push email and fast?
Forward Gmail to a free Mail2web account and use Exchange. I hate tethered syncing, so use Entourage to access the Mail2Web account (its not supported but it works, haha). If you prefer to use Apple's desktop apps, keep that Entourage sync setup, but tell it to sync your Exchange calendar with iCal (which you can then set to sync with gCal). Don't let Entourage sync with Address Book, but instead have it sync directly with the Exchange server, and then up to Gmail contacts.

b) is there anything i can to so the device "calls to me" like my BlackBerry does? better notifications when I get an email, make it be a more efficient communication tool?
err... jailbreak. =)

c) what are the WOW apps I have to try. Not just games, but stuff that is mind boggling cool
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Hi Kevin,

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a) what do I have to do make it all push email and fast
As others have said, Exchange and Mobile Me. Both are fast.

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b) is there anything i can to so the device "calls to me" like my BlackBerry does? better notifications when I get an email, make it be a more efficient communication tool?
Without Jailbreaking, not much beyond making sure you have all the alert sounds turned on (Settings>Sounds).

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c) what are the WOW apps I have to try. Not just games, but stuff that is mind boggling cool
Safari and iPod I think these are the only apps I've used on any mobile device that I'd describe as 'mind boggling cool'.
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A - What Bad ASh said. Use Exchange (free option is Mail2Web) or MobileMe. Best options by far.
B - Bad Ash is all over it. You can use Intelliscreen or StatusNotifier, but you have to be jailbroken in order to use it.
C - My favorite is Shazam. Listens to the music and then retrieves the song information for you. I also like i.TV, as it has TV, Movie, and your NetFlix all in one app. Best of all it is free.
D - Must jailbreak. It is easy and totally worth it. There are customizations out there and some cool programs that regualr iPhones can't even compare to.
E - Bad Ash has it again!
F - Once you start playing with the phone, you will be hooked!!!
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KEVIN!

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a) I bought an iPhone 3G the day it came it out. I'd hate to be though of as a pure fan boy, so figured this was the best way to know thy competition.
Fan boy!

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d) When I want to, I can type on it pretty quick. but i hold with my left hand and peck with my right. any recommendations on technique/device usage to be super speedy and accurate?
Trust the smartware. Most often it will just magically correct as you hammer ham fistedly at the little virtual keys. Trusting the smartware is key to the... er... keys.

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e) Despite all of the above, it really sits on my desk and collects dust. I pay a monthly bill on it and don't use it.
Fanboy.

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a) what do I have to do make it all push email and fast
Since you only really need it for a week, grab the free MobileMe trial. Not only will it automagically sync everything in your address book, ical, and mail.app to the cloud and iPhone, it can sync everything (doc, preferences, app settings, etc.) between your iMac and (collectible Dieter) MacBook. It will also enable Back-to-my-Mac, which is very sweet.

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b) is there anything i can to so the device "calls to me" like my BlackBerry does? better notifications when I get an email, make it be a more efficient communication tool?
If you turn notification on, it will beep and vibe when you get new stuff. No little morse-code flasher, but sound but shake is good. If that doesn't work, just imagine all the email you might be missing and you'll be checking that sucker every minute! It's like the device is playing hard to get, and is all the more seductive for it...

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c) what are the WOW apps I have to try. Not just games, but stuff that is mind boggling cool
Aside from the UI? New Google Maps could tell you how to take a bus from your place to Waterloo and what it'll cost ya. Google makes great stuff in general, from Earth to the speak-enabled Mobile App. Some of the games are stunning, as you already mentioned.

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d) are there any tricks, must-dos, must-knows that i should be aware of with this device that I may not be aware of?
Lots: iPhone Help and How-To Guides | The iPhone Blog

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e) How do i take screencaps??
Answered already.

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f) anything else??
Alter your state of mind. The iPhone is not a BlackBerry. It's not an up-converted pager with instant crack-addiction that wants you to do more and more constantly while putting up with all sorts of legacy cruft.

It's a fresh, new, completely-designed for touch consumer smartphone that's meant to literally renew your childlike sense of wonder. It's meant to be *fun*. You can get lost in it one moment, and then just marvel at the simplest of interface transitions the next.

The medium very literally encapsulates the message.

Sure, a bare bones stripped down frame-only buggy might get your from a-b the fastest (if you ignore traffic laws and don't kill yourself in the effort), but this baby makes the trip a pleasure.

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Exchange is the way to go if you want true push. Mobile me is more of a send than a push and not as reliable as exchange from all the reports I have heard.

When I am logged onto the exchange server directly it usually takes less that 10 seconds for it to show up on my iPhone.

Personnaly I prefer the way the iphone just lets me know that something new is happening while it is still in my pocket. No need to pull it out to see if I have recieved a response to an email or sms. At the same time the flashing lights of other devices wake me up while I can easily sleep through the hum of the iphone.

I didn't want to like it but I have to admit it really works well for me.
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When I type I like to hold it in portrait mode, centered equally in both hands, pinkies under it with both thumbs typing away. Pay attention to the auto-correct for a while. Get to know what it catches and what it doesn't, it's way beyond a basic spell checker/T9 type of auto-correct. This one acts like one of those combined with a built in mind reader. Take advantage of shortcuts like pausing on the dot to bring up .com, pause on the 123 key and drag to place a single char and it auto switches back to alpha, etc. Apple packed it with little goodies like that so read up on them tips!

I usually stick with portrait mode because it's easy to switch from app to app. The landscape keyboard doesn't have quite the same intelligence as portrait, it makes it easier to get used to just the one really well. I'll switch to landscape to sit back and browse the web with 2-thumb swipes and taps for the sheer joy of it.

You'll get the most out of it if you don't expect it to be more of the same in a phone. Take an afternoon (or a weekend) to browse the app store. Find apps that do what YOU want them to do, read through the comments, LEAVE comments (it's very common for devs to make changes based on comments), play with features, etc. Let it keep your grocery list, don't be afraid to ask google mobile any of life's questions, grab a cheap solitare app for some surprisingly enjoyable "classic" game time.

It's like switching girlfriends. They serve the same basic functionality. She might not know all your thoughts or have the same tricks as the old one did, but she's got a bag of new tricks she's waiting to show you and a whole lot better personality!
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