Do you wish the iPad came in a smaller size?
As any iPod lover/user knows, Apple has a smörgåsbord of sizes in iPod variety: iPod Shuffle, iPod Nano, iPod Classic, and iPod Touch, most of them with a plethora of GB sizes.
So, with that in mind, WHY is Steve Jobs so violently opposed to having the iPad in a different size? I've read the often quoted comments from Jobs about a 7" screen size: "Tweener" he called them, dismissing the public's desire to have a smaller size of the 10" iPad.
But really Steve????? Four versions of the iPod makes sense but "One Size Fits ALL" for iPad? "Seriously", I say in my best Grey's Anatomy voice?
Before I bought my Galaxy Tablet in the scoffed at 7" size, I did 4 months of research, reading all the iPad rumours about the next iPad launch not being a 2.0 version but a scaled down size. I would have bought a smaller iPad in a New York Minute if it had been brought to fruition but it became clear that Steve (therefore Apple) had no interest in developing it.
I'm sorry, but carrying around a Clip-Board sized device is the last thing I'd ever consider for my highly mobile lifestyle! I laughingly say that I've "grafted" the Gal-Tab to my hand, because I drag that puppy everywhere! Despite the pricey upperscale grocery stores I frequent, I've yet to see a single person using their iPad at one, to do their weekly shopping. I do see, however, many an iPhone user reading their grocery list from their iPhone or iPod Touch.
I also looked at the items that I use throughout the day and loved the 7" size: my French-style wallet which is identical in size to a 7" tablet; my Sony Reader, which is the same foot print as the 7" tablet; any paperback's I couldn't download, which are also the 7" footprint. At no time in a normal day, was I holding or reading from anything that measured 10". Even the vast majority of my cookbooks aren't 10" and the few that are, I'm not dragging them around 24/7 in a briefcase.
If Steve seriously thinks that "size doesn't matter", ask any Porn Star or satisfied sex partner: 4" vs. 7" delivers a whole lotta more pleasure!LOL
So, out of sheer curiousity, if the next upgrade to an iPad was a smaller size, would you buy one if this was your FIRST iPad purchase? I'm definitely going to be buying an iPad for some serious science and cooking apps that I can't get through Android but to be honest, if a 7" iPad came out, I'd be all over that like white on rice!
- 03-19-2011, 11:13 AM #2
Apple's stated position is that, at 7-inches, the software you can run on a tablet isn't significantly differentiated from what you can run on a phone. i.e. the screen isn't big enough to allow the class of software they want to see on an iPad.
They feel 9.7-inches allows developers to create a new class of software that wouldn't be possible at the smaller size.
Right now, their smaller iPad is the iPod touch, which is only 3.5-inches (diagonal screen size).
- 03-19-2011, 11:22 AM #3
Thanks, guys, for your opinion and the thinking (from Apple's standpoint) as to why the 7" iPad won't be arriving in a store near you.
This question came to mind because I was looking at HSN's website and the vast array of sizes of flat screen TV's and laptops; seems odd to me that the "Magic Number" for tablets is supposed to be somewhere in the 10" Zone whereas any and all other devices run the gamut in sizes and everyone's happy. For the life of me, with Apple being such a juggernaut in the industry, I didn't understand why they were shying away from this, since the Nano is so obviously different than an iTouch.
Oh well, that's one dream dashed.
- 03-19-2011, 01:29 PM #5
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- 03-19-2011, 02:10 PM #7
The main market I would see for such a device would be women with really good eye-sight who then might be able to fit it into their purse. I think they would have to maintain the same rez as the 10" version.... as I TOTALLY agree with the screen real-estate thing. My old eyes just couldn't take a 7" if the rez were the same.
- 03-19-2011, 02:16 PM #8
a) go with less rez... which Apple clearly points out would make it useless as a tablet, or
b) up the DPI... which would make it uncomfortable to use for everyone but a very small segment of the population with perfect eyesight.
This is one reason I think the 'Retina display' for the iPad is kind of silly. IMO, all the fuss over that were people just weren't thinking that one through. I guess if one could drive a screen with double the rez without sacrificing performance and battery life, then sure, go for it. Otherwise, I think it would be a marketing gimmick. It makes sense on the iPhone since the screen is so small, and you probably hold it just a few inches from your face (in order to actually take advantage of that extra dpi).
- 03-19-2011, 02:32 PM #9
- 03-19-2011, 03:18 PM #10
I currently have the ipad2 and the xoom. I actually miss the form factor of my 7" Galaxy tab (recently sold) Its just soo much easier and mobile to use. I was able to fly by on typing with that thing in portrait mode. Sure bigger screen is much better for media playback, but for ease of use I think the 7" tablet is perfect!
7" seems very small being compared to only 3.5" inches larger then the Iphone and a almost 3" smaller then the Ipad, but thats the beauty its right in the middle and its almost the Jack of all trades, but a master of none.
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- 03-19-2011, 09:21 PM #12
By that logic, Chris, you'd be complaining about it -- that's the reason we try to keep discussions here technical and not personal, cool?
Apple sometimes plays the size game. MacBook Pro comes in 13, 15, and 17 inches. Even iPods come in shuffle, nano, and classic flavors.
The difference is Mac OS X isn't a touch-based interface. Larger MacBook Screens just show more screen, and higher display densities just make targets smaller. With a mouse and pointer, you can hit small targets as easily as large.
iPods with (or without) clickwheel interfaces don't need to worry about UI scalability either.
TV sets don't care if they're 34 or 72 inches because the pixels just get bigger and because video moves fast it doesn't make much perceptible difference in a home setting.
However, a 7" tablet would shrink iPad OS touch targets considerably (which is why Jobs made the crack about shaving your fingers). That would mean Apple would need to introduce a 3rd UI size, and developers would have to make a 3rd version (or 3-UI universal app) of every app. (Google and Palm both try to abstract scalability but we haven't yet seen the results of Honeycomb or WebOS on 7-inch screens.)
That's the reason a 4-inch iPod touch probably makes more sense for Apple than a 7-inch iPad at this point in time.
- 03-19-2011, 09:50 PM #13
- 03-20-2011, 09:06 AM #14
Same goes with a 7" iPad. Whether or not it is preferred is an individual decision, but too many people declare it is now "too small" or "it wouldnt work" as if they even tried it. An example for how a 7" iPad would work is to look at mail in landscape. With the inbox open then the right side where you read mail is very readable and this would be the equivalent of a 7" in portrait.
People don't like to admit this, but iOS UI is an app launcher. The emphasis isnt on a sophisticated UI, it's about simplicity and that could be scaled so theres no technical limitation for ONLY offering iOS on a 3.5" or 10" screen and impossible on 7" tablets or 4.3" phones. The primary reason people only reject it because Steve Jobs told them to. And if Apple changes their mind (which they do a lot) then the same people will talk about the benefits of portability with a smaller iPad in the same way they'll finally admit next gen how fun it is to shoot pictures on a large screen with a GOOD camera.
Last edited by Urkel; 03-20-2011 at 09:10 AM.
- 03-20-2011, 10:58 AM #15
The problem is he doesn't know everyone here. So saying you all is a generalization which is not correct. He personally doesn't know me and the fact that I own a bunch of Apple products has nothing to do with what Apple says it has to do with my choice, my money and what I find a quality product.
Anyway Apple wont make a smaller tablet because they don't go backward. People are already dying to get a bigger iPhone screen. I have looked at the iPad many times and after using a 15" MBP and using 20" screens I thought it could be bigger. There are so many times I've been on sites and trying to change pages requires me to zoom, at 7" I don't even want to think about the work that would be required.
- 03-20-2011, 11:39 AM #16
- 03-20-2011, 12:16 PM #17
I'm glad there isn't a 7" iPad. Had Apple made a 7" iPad, they would be running into the same issue Samsung did with the Galaxy Tab. Phone software running on a bigger screen. It amazes me how android people say the iPad is a big iPhone, when they have the galaxy tab. *rolls eyes*
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- 03-21-2011, 01:17 AM #22
Well, I suppose Apple might produce an 7-inch iProduct, but not named iPad.
Just as Rene said, at 7-inches, the software you can run on a tablet isn't significantly differentiated from what you can run on a phone. So if Apple get the 7-inch product, then it's a totally different product from iPad, iPod, but a creative iProduct might be named iPaper or something like that~
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