You know, I was standing in line with a black 64 Gig Wi-Fi iPad 2 in-hand, all ready to purchase it. That is, until I got to play with the one on the display next to the purchase line. I was so disappointed with the cameras that I got pissed off and left. I mean, come the flip on Apple, the friggen iPad is a flagship device. Its camera should at LEAST have been as good as the iPhone 4, if not better, but it was far worse. That was really the last straw that killed the deal for me.
I consider myself an amateur photographer, and I also like to shoot videos of all kinds of random things, but the iPad 2 was a complete failure of photographic bliss. A piss-poor excuse for a camera and video recording device. A 1280 x 720 digital camera? Freaking pathetic.
I have an iPhone 4, which already has 720p video recording, and also the increased capability of a 5 Megapixel camera. I would have expected the iPad 2 to at least match that, especially when I consider the $699+tax I was about to drop on it.
I would have been content with an iPad 2 if it had a 5MP rear facing camera too, and would have been even more exstatic if it had 1080p video recording. But, unfortunately, it looks like my hopes and dreams will have to wait another year.
Here is what would seal the deal for me.
- 1080p recording at 30fps (and hopefully 60fps, but that's probably not going to happen for a few years.
- At least a 5MP camera. I would actually like something around 6MP with better HDR capability and a few more manual controls, like ISO and aperture adjustments.
- Retina display.
- 128Gigs of Memory.
Maybe you'd be better off with a FRIGGING CAMERA that does what you want rather than trying to make one device be the jack of all trades. A jack of all trades is a master of none. It should be all about using the right tool for the job. An iPad should not be the first tool of choice for someone wanting to be serious about taking good pictures or video. That's what cameras are for.
SMH
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Keith - iPhone4S on VZW; iPad(2012) - wifi with BadElf for GPS
Why the hell would you want the iPad to do what a smaller and cheaper device (i'm talking about a digital camera here, just so you know) will do so much better?
I would bet an iPad 2 that if you went to a shoot with a bunch of other "amatuer" photographers and you pulled out an iPad 2 you'd get ****ing laughed off the set.
At least you can spend that money you saved on it though on a real camera, one that's designed for this sort of thing.
Maybe you'd be better off with a FRIGGING CAMERA that does what you want rather than trying to make one device be the jack of all trades. A jack of all trades is a master of none. It should be all about using the right tool for the job. An iPad should not be the first tool of choice for someone wanting to be serious about taking good pictures or video. That's what cameras are for.
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Originally Posted by Livett
Bit like your thread/rant.
Why the hell would you want the iPad to do what a smaller and cheaper device (i'm talking about a digital camera here, just so you know) will do so much better?
I would bet an iPad 2 that if you went to a shoot with a bunch of other "amatuer" photographers and you pulled out an iPad 2 you'd get ****ing laughed off the set.
Thanks for both replies. I never said I wanted to use it as a primary camera. I already have a Nikon DSLR that shoots 1080p video and high quality photos, but I primarily use my iPhone 4 as a casual point and shoot for when I don't want to lug the big boy around.
I guess the point is that if I'm going to pay for a device that is essentially a larger version of an iPod Touch, and also the iPhone 4 without the phone, I would at least appreciate having the same capabilities of the iPhone 4 (or better considering it's a year later), just on the chance that I would need those capabilities and didn't have my iPhone available for whatever reason.
As far as getting laughed off the stage... people said the same thing about cellphones before. Then look at the iPhone 4 with 720p HD video recording. There were TV commercials filmed using only the iPhone 4 and iMovie. The iPad 2 can offer amateur film makers the opportunity to shoot 720p HD video AND do the editing ON the iPad 2. It's an all-in-one kind of thing that might save some student somewhere a lot of money. But, I still feel that Apple is being left behind in that they're still sticking with 720p, even though 1080p is now the dominant standard.
I didn't buy the iPad 1 because it didn't have a camera, and I REALLY wanted to get an iPad 2, but I felt that the camera on my iPhone was superior, and that really ticked me off when I was standing there in-store ready to pick one up. Sorry it was a rant, but a rant it was. lol.
Maybe I'll be truly happy when they come out with an iPad that will run both iOS and OSX at the same time, that has a retina display and has 1080p@60 fps recording while also producing nice still images, and be a really nice all-in-one device that meets the more casual needs. I think Leanna said it on her camera review that the digital zoom was simply awful. I agree, and it was enough to keep me from buying the iPad 2.
I don't know how many times this is going to be repeated on this forum but....
The cameras on the iPad are meant for FaceTime, NOT photography!!!
I still don't understand why anyone would want to take photos with something as big as the iPad.
Smh
Exactly correct. I'm not sure why people are flipping out over the cameras when they are not meant to be carried around for taking pictures. Buy a camera or use an iPhone 4 if you want to take pictures.
It's hard to believe the lengths people will go to defend these cameras. Even the video is poor on these. IMO, when you put a feature on a device, do it right. We've already discussed how taking a simple picture is just one use of the cameras. There's many other uses. Even Facetime is a bit poor looking IMO.
Although i would disagree with the OP on which is the flagship device. They both are with similar prices.
It's hard to believe the lengths people will go to defend these cameras. Even the video is poor on these. IMO, when you put a feature on a device, do it right. We've already discussed how taking a simple picture is just one use of the cameras. There's many other uses. Even Facetime is a bit poor looking IMO.
Although i would disagree with the OP on which is the flagship device. They both are with similar prices.
What people are failing to realize is apples goal is to give you the best device it possible can at a price point that it thinks the majority of consumers will be comfortable with. They already giving the consumer much much more than any other company can at $499 for the cheapest model. If putting in the same quality camera as the iPhone 4 made the price $599, would it be worth it?
I don't know the answer to that but I'm sure apple made a conscious decision when deciding on the low quality cameras.
In my opinion it makes sense but if you don't care about everything else apple gave you for the price they did and want a better camera; buy the Xoom.
What people are failing to realize is apples goal is to give you the best device it possible can at a price point that it thinks the majority of consumers will be comfortable with. They already giving the consumer much much more than any other company can at $499 for the cheapest model. If putting in the same quality camera as the iPhone 4 made the price $599, would it be worth it?
I don't know the answer to that but I'm sure apple made a conscious decision when deciding on the low quality cameras.
In my opinion it makes sense but if you don't care about everything else apple gave you for the price they did and want a better camera; buy the Xoom.
+1 Well said. Fact is people will always find something to complain about. It's just human nature. To each their own.
While the iPad's camera will never get as close to a DSLR it will improve over time. Look at the iPhone. Took them 4 years to get a flash and 5mp on it.
The iPad's camera is just like a typical laptop webcam.