1. LCW's Avatar
    anyone judging iOS 7 without actually having seen and used it first hand has no credibility. i've been using it since yesterday - and while it's a big buggy - the usability is MUCH improved. The learning curve is nothing like that reported for BB10. Visual look is a personal preference. Don't like it? Stay with iOS 6 or go to Android/WP/BB10. I find the look to be great - less fluff. Better thought out usability. It's different, and for some may take some time to get used to, but in 6 months, it will be the new standard.

    iOS 7 is imho a WIN... i've used, I like it, and can't wait for the future betas and the final release (which will also be when the next iphone hits )
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    06-11-2013 12:05 PM
  2. Alli's Avatar
    I'm not crazy about the new icons, but they are necessary for that new gorgeous 3D look you're getting with the app transparency. Seeing it in the Keynote did not do it justice. It will blow you away, and you will quickly forget that the new icons were designed by the daycare children of Apple employees.
    06-11-2013 12:18 PM
  3. jessica_lynn9474's Avatar
    anyone judging iOS 7 without actually having seen and used it first hand has no credibility. i've been using it since yesterday - and while it's a big buggy - the usability is MUCH improved. The learning curve is nothing like that reported for BB10. Visual look is a personal preference. Don't like it? Stay with iOS 6 or go to Android/WP/BB10. I find the look to be great - less fluff. Better thought out usability. It's different, and for some may take some time to get used to, but in 6 months, it will be the new standard.

    iOS 7 is imho a WIN... i've used, I like it, and can't wait for the future betas and the final release (which will also be when the next iphone hits )
    LCW are you using a black or white phone? Just really curious to know how the new iOS software looks against a black phone vs. white as it seems with a white phone there may be TOO much white.

    Thanks!
    06-11-2013 12:21 PM
  4. scorpiodsu's Avatar
    I'm going to reserve judgement until I actually see it on a device and experience the functionality. As we know, sometimes pictures don't do things justice and I cannot measure what "no longer user friendly" if I haven't actually used it yet. I am looking forward to the refresh. Maybe they could have made some different choices but again, I'll wait until I see it myself first.
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    06-11-2013 12:43 PM
  5. brooklyndon2911's Avatar
    It's quite a Change but it just takes some getting use to.
    06-11-2013 12:49 PM
  6. finn5975's Avatar
    finn5975 - Thanks for the response! This definitely helps. I look forward to your screen shot tonight! Could you just inbox me?

    Also, since we're thinking that the app colors, text screen, etc. will most likely not be customizable (not the end of the world I guess, lol), what are your thoughts on the color of phone that would look best with these new colors? Black or white? And why?

    The reason I ask again is because I need to get a new phone pronto as mine has been acting up since screen cracked and I'd like to make sure I'm getting the color that would work best with ios7 since I'm stuck with it for another two years.

    Thanks again!!
    You're welcome One thing you can do is go to YouTube and search "iOS 7". It will give you a bunch of results of videos showing iOS 7 hands on demos on both the white and black phone versions. Gives a good idea how it looks in both!!
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    06-11-2013 12:58 PM
  7. jessica_lynn9474's Avatar
    You're welcome One thing you can do is go to YouTube and search "iOS 7". It will give you a bunch of results of videos showing iOS 7 hands on demos on both the white and black phone versions. Gives a good idea how it looks in both!!
    finn5975 - Good idea! I'm on lunch so I actually just did and I think it does look better against black. The white is almost toooooo bright. Nice that we have choices though, right?

    One youtube video shows where you can enable or disable the flat app icons! I'm hoping this is true!

    So I'm thinking I'll get black and hoping that with a good case and screen protector cover that it'll be "safe".

    Thanks again!!!
    06-11-2013 01:19 PM
  8. DStLouis's Avatar
    Looks like most of of you dont care much of what a smartphone could do, but are very critical of how it look.
    Which is somehow funny because most of us are then just hiding it in a case.

    It is well known that Apple are very very good putting a lot of "glitter" to attract consumers, which work very well, but they also need to bring up-to-date demanding functionalities.

    So will the new iOS 7 delivered what it should delivered these days in term of functionalities? or is it more a make-up overall that will attract consumers ? I would personnaly bet that the 3D effect background will be a good sales force, ...but whats are real improvements ...things I need to be more productive.


    On my opinion;
    - I still having problems to figured out why there is still no native file manager in iOS? Why should we rely almost exclusively on Cloud, which became more and more questionnable about confidentiality and constantly requiring you to drain a lot of your data plans (when you still have connection available).

    - Why is it so much a pain to attach a file to an email. Which generally requires to break the email chain by creating a new one.

    - I'm also wondering why communications apps are still working in "silos"? All my communications (emails, BYOD email apps, message, sms, missed call....) are all spread over the phone/iPad. Yes there are notifications, but not much to do with it other then to be aware of new messages. So I have to stop what I was doing to jumps to the appropriate apps to full review, reply, and so.. Same for contacts I want them centralized, no longer spread over the phone (email, sms, phone, Facebook, Skype...)

    - Why we still have to exit whatever we are doing in order to lets say reply to a text thread? Is the new mulltitasking feature enough ? I dont feel it will. Exiting whatever you are doing still look to be the way to access the multitasks cards.

    - Why do they're are just turning their back to NFC. While it is not fully deployed yet, the all industries is going in that direction because of it's simplicity of use and level of security. When the new iPhone will be released it will be probably on the late side to bring it on (Note NFC and aluminum back cover is not a very good match).


    iPhone/iPad are/was great devices, but their shine may keep decrease if they are not looking around themself and keep thinking (or make us believe) that what they offer are the only features we really need.
    06-11-2013 01:26 PM
  9. offdahglass's Avatar
    Apple is damned if they do something and damned if they didn't. Wouldn't you be complaining if things stayed the same? I would just be thankful they took the risk.
    06-11-2013 01:42 PM
  10. vdroide's Avatar
    Looks like most of of you dont care much of what a smartphone could do, but are very critical of how it look.
    Which is somehow funny because most of us are then just hiding it in a case.

    It is well known that Apple are very very good putting a lot of "glitter" to attract consumers, which work very well, but they also need to bring up-to-date demanding functionalities.

    So will the new iOS 7 delivered what it should delivered these days in term of functionalities? or is it more a make-up overall that will attract consumers ? I would personnaly bet that the 3D effect background will be a good sales force, ...but whats are real improvements ...things I need to be more productive.


    On my opinion;
    - I still having problems to figured out why there is still no native file manager in iOS? Why should we rely almost exclusively on Cloud, which became more and more questionnable about confidentiality and constantly requiring you to drain a lot of your data plans (when you still have connection available).

    - Why is it so much a pain to attach a file to an email. Which generally requires to break the email chain by creating a new one.

    - I'm also wondering why communications apps are still working in "silos"? All my communications (emails, BYOD email apps, message, sms, missed call....) are all spread over the phone/iPad. Yes there are notifications, but not much to do with it other then to be aware of new messages. So I have to stop what I was doing to jumps to the appropriate apps to full review, reply, and so.. Same for contacts I want them centralized, no longer spread over the phone (email, sms, phone, Facebook, Skype...)

    - Why we still have to exit whatever we are doing in order to lets say reply to a text thread? Is the new mulltitasking feature enough ? I dont feel it will. Exiting whatever you are doing still look to be the way to access the multitasks cards.

    - Why do they're are just turning their back to NFC. While it is not fully deployed yet, the all industries is going in that direction because of it's simplicity of use and level of security. When the new iPhone will be released it will be probably on the late side to bring it on (Note NFC and aluminum back cover is not a very good match).


    iPhone/iPad are/was great devices, but their shine may keep decrease if they are not looking around themself and keep thinking (or make us believe) that what they offer are the only features we really need.
    Interesting that some of the things you list as necessary are in my opinion almost subjective. For example, I know everyone wants actionable notifications but I dont. I dont find it hard to touch the message when sends me into the app I look at the rest of the conversation for context and respond, after returning to my previous app via task switching. I rarely respond to stuff right away.

    I do not under any circumstance what all my communications in one place a la Blackberry Hub. I get alot of stuff, and I dont always have time to deal with it right away, haivng it all in one place would make a gigantic mess of everything.

    I agree with the email attachments

    The native file manager would not be something we might see in IOS soon, it is against their idea of what iOS should represent. I agree though, it is something I would like.
    06-11-2013 01:47 PM
  11. LCW's Avatar
    LCW are you using a black or white phone? Just really curious to know how the new iOS software looks against a black phone vs. white as it seems with a white phone there may be TOO much white.

    Thanks!
    I have a black iPhone 5 that I'm running iOS 7. Would actually like to see it on a white one in person. My thought is almost the opposite... It might look even better on a white iPhone - with black there's a bigger contrast - which might be harder on the eyes than white on white...
    06-11-2013 05:12 PM
  12. BLiNK's Avatar
    this thread makes me lol
    06-11-2013 08:16 PM
  13. Fausty82's Avatar
    this thread makes me lol
    The whole iOS 7 board makes me LOL... all these n00bs freaking out about this feature, that screen, this app, and OMG, the battery life sucks... The thing is, the mayhem is worse today than it was yesterday! I’m guessing that it will be worse tomorrow!
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    06-11-2013 08:25 PM
  14. BLiNK's Avatar
    The whole iOS 7 board makes me LOL... all these n00bs freaking out about this feature, that screen, this app, and OMG, the battery life sucks... The thing is, the mayhem is worse today than it was yesterday! I’m guessing that it will be worse tomorrow!
    the mods should really close these types of threads. maybe people will get the hint
    carrickfergus likes this.
    06-11-2013 08:31 PM
  15. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    ABANDON SHIP! She's going down in flames folks!



    ...or, don't.
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    06-11-2013 08:55 PM
  16. abazigal's Avatar
    I was actually impressed by what I saw during the keynote yesterday.

    However, when I installed the beta on my phone, it was a different story. Phone running hot under light load, bugs, lagging and random reboots aside, the colours look very muted overall (nowhere near as sharp or vibrant as we were led to believe). Stuff like the opaque dock, the lack of translucency in menus, the blocky notification banners. I am not really getting much of a 3D parallax background effect either.

    I am not sure if this means IOS7 is still a work in progress, or many of the new UI features will run properly only on the iphone5 onwards?
    06-11-2013 09:10 PM
  17. LCW's Avatar
    I was actually impressed by what I saw during the keynote yesterday.

    However, when I installed the beta on my phone, it was a different story. Phone running hot under light load, bugs, lagging and random reboots aside, the colours look very muted overall (nowhere near as sharp or vibrant as we were led to believe). Stuff like the opaque dock, the lack of translucency in menus, the blocky notification banners. I am not really getting much of a 3D parallax background effect either.

    I am not sure if this means IOS7 is still a work in progress, or many of the new UI features will run properly only on the iphone5 onwards?
    You do realize this is BETA 1 right? And that this is not a "ready for prime time" OS right? And that the reason apple charges $99 is to try and keep the beta out of non-serious non-developer types that will take every issue as if it were fully polished production released software right?

    Oh wait... You really DON'T get it... smh
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    06-11-2013 09:17 PM
  18. abazigal's Avatar
    You do realize this is BETA 1 right? And that this is not a "ready for prime time" OS right? And that the reason apple charges $99 is to try and keep the beta out of non-serious non-developer types that will take every issue as if it were fully polished production released software right?

    Oh wait... You really DON'T get it... smh
    Like how Siri and Maps were 'just in beta', right?

    Then what the heck was Craig demoing on his iphone5 during the IOS7 keynote on Monday? How come they get one version and developers get another? At this point (~2 months before they start manufacturing the next iphone and installing IOS7 on them), IOS7 should be more or less ready for prime-time.
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    06-11-2013 09:22 PM
  19. End_User's Avatar
    It looks a lot better with a darker wallpaper and the majority of the apple drawn icons hidden. Who really uses the apple apps anyway? (short of phone messages)
    06-11-2013 10:08 PM
  20. Fausty82's Avatar
    Oh wait... You really DON'T get it... smh
    That’s all the proof you should need, LCW ... SMH, too

    Like how Siri and Maps were 'just in beta', right?

    Then what the heck was Craig demoing on his iphone5 during the IOS7 keynote on Monday? How come they get one version and developers get another? At this point (~2 months before they start manufacturing the next iphone and installing IOS7 on them), IOS7 should be more or less ready for prime-time.


    Abazigal:

    You think they just went up there and played with the phone in a live demo? Trust me, that was rehearsed and tightly scripted. It’s not a different version, it’s just a very controlled environment. The final version of iOS 7 is nowhere in sight. Not even close... there will be at least 4 more beta release put out between now and the time that Apple releases the next iPhone... and the betas will come every 2/3/4 weeks, each building on the previous version along with fixes and tweaks.

    BTW, Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny aren’t real. Since we’re bursting your bubble, why hold back now?
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    06-11-2013 10:34 PM
  21. abazigal's Avatar
    Thats all the proof you should need, LCW ... SMH, too

    Abazigal:

    You think they just went up there and played with the phone in a live demo? Trust me, that was rehearsed and tightly scripted. Its not a different version, its just a very controlled environment. The final version of iOS 7 is nowhere in sight. Not even close... there will be at least 4 more beta release put out between now and the time that Apple releases the next iPhone... and the betas will come every 2/3/4 weeks, each building on the previous version along with fixes and tweaks.

    BTW, Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny arent real. Since were bursting your bubble, why hold back now?
    Please, what variables are there between their iphones and mine?

    I am talking about features which shouldn't show any differences across devices to begin with, since they don't depend on factors like internet speed or availability of servers.

    This isn't about Siri not being used to my voice or me speaking to it wrong, or Maps not working well outside of the US. If you need a tightly controlled environment just to make basic features like control centre appear without any lag, then something is very wrong, isn't it?
    06-11-2013 11:25 PM
  22. Fausty82's Avatar
    Please, what variables are there between their iphones and mine?

    I am talking about features which shouldn't show any differences across devices to begin with, since they don't depend on factors like internet speed or availability of servers.

    This isn't about Siri not being used to my voice or me speaking to it wrong, or Maps not working well outside of the US. If you need a tightly controlled environment just to make basic features like control centre appear without any lag, then something is very wrong, isn't it?
    Control center pops right up on my iPhone 5. No lag at all. Occasionally I get a springboard crash and get dumped back to the home screen, or experience a lag every now and then... but it’s actually pretty stable and generally very responsive for me.

    But there are still some things that are set up or staged as best case scenarios - using local servers (backstage), and other tricks... not being deceptive as much as showing functionality of a raw features...
    06-11-2013 11:36 PM
  23. swarlos's Avatar
    This heating up issue I have yet to experience this beta is very stable IMHO.

    People just need to complain.


    Sent from the collector home world.
    06-11-2013 11:49 PM
  24. abazigal's Avatar
    This heating up issue I have yet to experience this beta is very stable IMHO.

    People just need to complain.


    Sent from the collector home world.
    Well, I am simply calling it as I see it.

    I have no doubts that improvements will be made down the road. I intend to upgrade my iphone later this year, and want ios7 to b a success as well.
    06-12-2013 12:18 AM
  25. swarlos's Avatar
    Well, I am simply calling it as I see it.

    I have no doubts that improvements will be made down the road. I intend to upgrade my iphone later this year, and want ios7 to b a success as well.
    Fair enough you may be experiencing issues I'm not which in your previous post you stated you are which is a shame.


    Sent from the collector home world.
    06-12-2013 12:20 AM
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