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    Looks like Apple needs to step up their game. I have just moved to iPhone 4S from Android, and although IOS "just works", it lacks a some basic features that are native to Android. The new ICS on Android puts to rest any past complaints about lag and instability on Android devices, and people must be buying into it, as the new Samsung Galaxy SIII will be the best selling phone at launch of all time. I would really like to stay with iPhone, and believe me I am not bashing, but IOS6 is just a minor update, and seems to put Apple further behind. I have read the forums on this site for a long time, and since IOS6 was announced it seems as though a LOT of people are considering a switch to Android. If they go with one of the new ICS phones, this may not be a bad idea.
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    Twaddle.

    IF you think android is the best thing since sliced bread, go get one, and join the android forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kch50428 View Post
    Twaddle.

    IF you think android is the best thing since sliced bread, go get one, and join the android forums.
    Where did I say it was the best? I will probably stay with iPhone, but Apple does need to step it up. Don't take things so personal, it's only a phone. LOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pappy53 View Post
    Where did I say it was the best? I will probably stay with iPhone, but Apple does need to step it up. Don't take things so personal, it's only a phone. LOL!
    If you're so fond of Android, get one. Then go play in the android forums... yeah, it's just a phone... so why are you here, compelled to tell everyone here how their choice of Apple is inferior??? That makes me LOL - the number of people that feel some need to show up here and do nothing but spout off how Apple is crap, and the dairy product flavor of the week is the greatest thing since indoor plumbing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kch50428 View Post
    If you're so fond of Android, get one. Then go play in the android forums... yeah, it's just a phone... so why are you here, compelled to tell everyone here how their choice of Apple is inferior??? That makes me LOL - the number of people that feel some need to show up here and do nothing but spout off how Apple is crap, and the dairy product flavor of the week is the greatest thing since indoor plumbing...
    I have not said that Apple is inferior or crap, nor have I said that Android is the greatest. I am now using iPhone, and I like it, but I do have the right to express my opinions on how Apple could improve their phones, just as you can express your opinions. The difference between you and me is that I don't have an elitist attitude, and can read other's opinions without getting offended.
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    I agree with you pappy, iOS 6 does feel like a minor update. It seems like something that would have been a point update when compared to how big of an update iOS 5 was, just last year. I'm hoping that as we get closer to the public release of iOS 6 more features will come to the light.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kch50428 View Post
    If you're so fond of Android, get one. Then go play in the android forums... yeah, it's just a phone... so why are you here, compelled to tell everyone here how their choice of Apple is inferior??? That makes me LOL - the number of people that feel some need to show up here and do nothing but spout off how Apple is crap, and the dairy product flavor of the week is the greatest thing since indoor plumbing...
    Nowhere in any part of his post did he say that Apple was crap or inferior. He simply stated that iOS 6 feels more like a minor update, which is a valid opinion. I feel like you are the one who is spouting off and not being helpful or contributing to the discussion. I've said my piece in this and I believe you should not approach a post as if someone is attacking you but actually take the time to process the posts and respond calmly to the discussion.


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    I hope that more improvements are on the way. I would like to see the ability to group SMS. I tried the "Group SMS" app, but all the recipients have to download the message. This seems like it would be a simple feature to add to IOS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pappy53 View Post
    Looks like Apple needs to step up their game.

    I have read the forums on this site for a long time, and since IOS6 was announced it seems as though a LOT of people are considering a switch to Android. If they go with one of the new ICS phones, this may not be a bad idea.
    Personally, I see a lot of the "going to Android" posts as simply posturing by those who repeatedly are unhappy with every Apple product they've seen, but still buy them... sort of a "Munchausen by iPhone" thing.

    And Pappy, that comment about the threats was NOT directed AT you, but rather a comment on your observation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fausty82 View Post
    Personally, I see a lot of the "going to Android" posts as simply posturing by those who repeatedly are unhappy with every Apple product they've seen, but still buy them... sort of a "Munchausen by iPhone" thing.
    This is probably true. I plan to stay with Apple, as I have been with Android for 2 years, but I would like to see some improvements, as I am sure everyone would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pappy53 View Post
    Looks like Apple needs to step up their game. I have just moved to iPhone 4S from Android, and although IOS "just works", it lacks a some basic features that are native to Android. The new ICS on Android puts to rest any past complaints about lag and instability on Android devices, and people must be buying into it, as the new Samsung Galaxy SIII will be the best selling phone at launch of all time. I would really like to stay with iPhone, and believe me I am not bashing, but IOS6 is just a minor update, and seems to put Apple further behind. I have read the forums on this site for a long time, and since IOS6 was announced it seems as though a LOT of people are considering a switch to Android. If they go with one of the new ICS phones, this may not be a bad idea.
    honestly man, this is an ios forum... if you dislike iOS6 and aren't happy with it and consider ICS to be SO much better for you, then seriously, GTFO. go vote with your dollars and buy an ICS phone...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fausty82 View Post
    Personally, I see a lot of the "going to Android" posts as simply posturing by those who repeatedly are unhappy with every Apple product they've seen, but still buy them... sort of a "Munchausen by iPhone" thing.
    lol... exactly... they are empty threats... as if the "if iOS doesn't have X feature, i'm going to Android"... all I have to say to those folks... don't let the door hit you on the way out... and PS - those people will be back... lol


    PS - i also have a GNex, running ICS... there are things it does better... but overall, having used BOTH, i prefer iOS...i'm running the iOS6 beta and really dig the new features... sure there are things i wish were included.... but i won't go bashing neither iOS or even ICS for that matter....
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    Quote Originally Posted by LCW View Post
    honestly man, this is an ios forum... if you dislike iOS6 and aren't happy with it and consider ICS to be SO much better for you, then seriously, GTFO. go vote with your dollars and buy an ICS phone...
    You sure read a lot into my post. If you bother to read my later posts, you will see that I like Apple, but I do have opinions about the update. So, no, I will not "GTFO", as you so eloquently put it.
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    Or at least wait before making judgements. I won't see iOS 6 until i'm holding an iphone 5 in hand. But i'm pretty sure we'll see record sales. LTE alone will be a big improvement.
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    Guys, give Pappy a break! All that was stated was that OS6 is lacking, and we will all have to continue to jailbreak to get what've want. But that's the Apple way, always has been. Truth hurts sometimes, but nothing's perfect. As he stated, he's not dumping the IPhone, just stating some facts, that by the way are true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cardfan View Post
    Or at least wait before making judgements. I won't see iOS 6 until i'm holding an iphone 5 in hand. But i'm pretty sure we'll see record sales. LTE alone will be a big improvement.
    LTE and a bigger screen, and I am on it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LCW View Post
    honestly man, this is an ios forum... if you dislike iOS6 and aren't happy with it and consider ICS to be SO much better for you, then seriously, GTFO. go vote with your dollars and buy an ICS phone...
    That's a bit harsh, isn't it? I understand your point, but c'mon, is anybody but Jony Ivy and Tim Cook happy with EVERY feature of EVERY Apple device? I'm disappointed at a few things, and I have the right to voice that displeasure if I choose. The OP simply voiced his opinion and is getting grilled for it... the biggest part of the issue is that we (the Apple user base) set the expectations SO high prior to every announcement that we can't help but be disappointed when the dust settles... but if we take a moment and analyze what is coming next, we generally end up satisfied with the resulting hardware or software offering.
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    It's one thing to voice displeasure with Apple... it's an entirely different thing thing to start whining that the diary product of the week is a better choice since day one. If one really believes that, they should get their cone, sandwich or whatever, and go play in their own sandbox and quit filling this one with ****.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kch50428 View Post
    It's one thing to voice displeasure with Apple... it's an entirely different thing thing to start whining that the diary product of the week is a better choice since day one. If one really believes that, they should get their cone, sandwich or whatever, and go play in their own sandbox and quit filling this one with ****.
    I have not said that the "dairy product of the week" was better. I said that, for some, it might not be a bad idea. I have used both OS's and have said that I am staying with Apple, yet will continue to express my opinion. If you and LCW want to be closed-minded, then so be it. And as Forrest Gump said, that is all I have to say about that.
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    Dude you need to chill. I am a huge Apple fan (own and iPod, iPad 2 and MacBook Pro) and I must say this update is lame. No big features at all and no refresh was what did it for me. There may be more to come as Siri wasn't announced last summer so we shall see with the next iPhone, but this was a huge let down. I thought they'd at least tweak some stuff with the Springboard. Idk why this guy is getting so angry but seriously the OP can express his opinion. That's what forums are for and you don't have to read it. If the title makes you mad...stay out of the post...

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    I agree with the OP. I love my iPhone and iPad, but I was a tad disappointed with what Apple presented a couple of days ago. There seem to be basic features lacking in iOS 6, and while perhaps Apple isn't showing its entire hand (or may add more between now and October), iOS 6 lacks the "wow factor" that many people were expecting. Yes, people can turn to jailbreaking to personalize their devices, but some of the most popular (and somewhat fundmental) jailbreak tweaks - SBSettings, IntelliscreenX, BiteSMS, etc. - at this point should be baked into iOS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mfm77 View Post
    Yes, people can turn to jailbreaking to personalize their devices, but some of the most popular (and somewhat fundmental) jailbreak tweaks - SBSettings, IntelliscreenX, BiteSMS, etc. - at this point should be baked into iOS.
    obviously Apple is in no hurry to to implement the items describe above. both you and i know how convenient they are but not the majority of iPhone users. they have no idea what they are missing out on so the urgency is not there
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    People should not expect to see radical changes from Apple. They make small incremental changes. Do you know what kind of uproar Apple would get from Devs if they did some radical change with the UI? That would cause Apps to be rewritten. A learning curve. That's not what Apple is about.

    Comparing Android to iOS is not logical. They take different approaches to user satisfaction. And does Google really take as many strides in Developer satisfaction?
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    The Devs whining about things are reasons why we won't get 1280x720, and Android will just pass iOS in resolution. It's their job to adapt, not ours. They're paid to do that for a living.

    A 4.5 inch iPhone would be killer but it won't happen because developers would have a cow.
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