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- 06-15-2012, 12:24 AM #30
I don't think we will ever see a major change in IOS, Apple likes it that way, a 5 year old can use a IPhone, IPad, or IPod, keep it simple is their motto. Android is way more customizable right out of the box. I'm waiting for Blackberry 10. Had the Playbook before buying my Ipad2, was totally in love with the power and multitasking of QNX. No buttons, full gestures, true multitasking, but alas serious lack of app support. I hope the apps are there when they release BB10, maybe I will be back with a Bold come November. Apple needs to really add true multitasking to IOS and swipe app switching, we are not all 5 year olds and need more options. You won't have to use it unless you want to, but it would be there for those of us that want those features. Untill then, it's Jailbreak time in IOS land.
- 06-15-2012, 01:15 AM #31
- 06-15-2012, 01:31 AM #32
That Samsung Galaxy S3 is looking real good right now. I'm tired of getting stuck with the beta products.
Beta this. Beta that. I'm just so sick of it.
FaceTime JUST came to Cellular. Woooooooooooooooooow. Everyone was clapping like it was some new feature or something, how late to the game, the blooming idiots.
- 06-15-2012, 02:46 AM #33
You are well within your rights to: 1) not upgrade to iOS 6, or 2) move on over to Android, it's not a bad choice.
Every iPhone owner that has moved over to Android either comes back or complains that it's not iOS. But thats just a real life comparison of the two OS's.
- 06-15-2012, 02:53 AM #34
If you installed a DEVELOPER beta on your device though and are complaining about its features, you are delusional. It's not meant for you. Period. It's meant for those of us who write software to use for compatibility testing and API support for the new features and updated system calls.
You cannot make any judgement about what will be delivered this Fall from a DEVELOPER beta 1 release.
- 06-15-2012, 04:00 AM #35
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- 06-16-2012, 12:21 AM #38
It is true that ios is behind. Thats not even up for debate discussion thats a proven fact of life ios is behind many other Mobile os' and is not constantly growing for the greater as the brief preview of os6 has shown. But the only thing that i can see wrong with his post is the fact that hes encouraging people to go get and android other than everything he said valid.
- 06-16-2012, 03:52 AM #39
- 06-16-2012, 06:11 AM #41iPhone Nanite
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iPhone - First iPhone
iPhone 3G - Named because of the new 3G feature
iPhone 3GS - Named 3GS because it only slightly improved on the 3G and the S was for Speed.
iPhone 4 - This was the 4 because it the 4th Generation of the iPhone.
iPhone 4S - This was named the 4S because again, it was only a minor upgrade, the main ones being Retina Display and Siri.
So either the next one will be iPhone 5 for some odd reason, being 5 is an irrelevant number. Or they will produce an iPhone 6 seeing as it is the 6th Generation iPhone and it will even match up with iOS 6.
And why would it be 1280x720? This doesn't follow any sort of scale ratio, so the developers(inc me) would have a right to be annoyed because it doesn't mean scaling up their images like the Retina display, It would mean every layout and image would need to be changed. Because changing the aspect ratio of the screen would mean all the current apps would not display correctly, and therefore they would need to alter every UI to match and add new images.
Also, if they did do it, and developers did somehow alter every app to fit the new resolution, the size of the downloads would be huge! There is already 4 different versions of an app in its binary (iPhone, iPhone Retina, iPad, iPad Retina)
Plus, that being said. There is no need to change the resolution as your retinas cannot pick out the individual pixels on the Retina display. Adding more would be physically pointless as you will definitely not notice the difference. It would be pointless manufacturing cost, waste of power, and so much more work for developers.
So stop saying your rubbish ideas, Apple has things under control.
- 06-16-2012, 08:36 AM #42
I don't know the actual dates, I don't feel like looking them up, and I don't have to, because someone here likely already knows.
Not sure if that's a fair comparison.
iPhone pre-orders last a week or two.
S3 feels like its been on pre-order for 2 months.
Pappy, you probably already know this but I'll say it anyway.
As long as you use the platform that suits you best overall,
overlook what you wish it had, and enjoy what it does have.
- 06-16-2012, 10:08 AM #43
Maybe I was a bit harsh in my first post on this thread but it seems that people are always complaining. The first thing that you should always know is that Apple will never drop there big"AND ONE MORE THING" this far ahead of the release of the phone. Most bloggers and people who generally have sources that are right every now and then believe that there are features that they will save for the next event or the entire launch event would just be them showing the phone and saying "here it is! Good night!" They have to keep the big things under wraps so that they actually have something to announce with the actual phone. Be patient. We have no idea what maps will be like when it comes. From what I'm hearing there are awesome apps that offer the public transportation information that you're looking for. You might actually find something that you like more in looks and performance than Google maps. That app was the weakest link in the entire device to some people and I am one of those people. Apple went out on a limb and I think that the app will be beautiful. I don't think that when it launches that there will be clay looking buildings. The best is yet to come. Relax and watch the show.
- 06-16-2012, 12:37 PM #44
I won't complain about 4.5 but that's a smidgen too big. I really miss the 4" screen on my SGS. Even the 3.7 on my Lumia 710 makes a difference.
I got blisters on me fingers! from using Tapatalk.
- 06-16-2012, 02:50 PM #45
Next month Apple will report sales numbers that will be in the 10 million iPhone per month range. They averaged 12 million for the first 6 months after the 4S launch. So Apple is probably selling more iPhone 4Ses today than Samsung is S3s. One is nearly 8 months old, the other barely 2 weeks old.
Samsung does not report smartphone sales numbers. My guess is they might sell those 9 million pre-ordered S3s in one quarter. That's ~3 million/month. Add in all the other smartphones they sell and they might double that to 6 million/month. Convert units to dollars and the scales tip even further on Apple's side.
All this data is important mostly to investors. People buying the phones could care less.
Now to go back to the original post: "Step it up, Apple!"
All the companies involved with smartphones (Apple, Google, Samsung, etc.) have their own priorities in product development. The iPhone is behind in voice turn-by-turn directions. Android devices (the very high end models) are only just now catching up in UI fluidity & responsiveness. iPhone 4 & 4S users will get iOS 6 as soon as it's launched. Less than 10% of Android users have updated to ICS seven months after it launched.
Pick and choose which bundle of compromises you prefer. Each product offers the best effort of a company and platform at any given point in time. You can wish for more, but you can only choose from what is available at the time you choose to buy.
What Apple presented at WWDC needs to be looked at in a much broader scope than a single set of features. The two big-picture items presented these past two years are Siri and iCloud. Siri is still beta and iCloud is still teething. You could characterize any improvements in either as "incremental", but the concepts behind each is truly revolutionary.
Try to imagine how these two will work in 5 yrs. Siri will be how most people interact with their iOS devices most of the time. Touchscreens will still be around, but why bother with those if you can simply use your voice?
iCloud will eventually mean that any connected Apple device (iPhone, iPad, AppleTV, Mac, iWatch, iGlasses, iHelmet, etc.) will allow access to all of your content and data. Passbook will eventually hold all the contents of your current physical wallet or purse.
This is the stuff of sci-fi movies. No one will remember or care that the iPhone was 2 yrs. behind in getting turn-by-turn directions. Does anyone remember that Android Voice commands were available over a year before Siri?
So gripe all you want that the iPhone doesn't have this or that. In a few months iOS 6 will arrive and address some of those complaints. And each subsequent 6.x update will take care of a few more until WWDC2013 where Apple will announce yet more incremental upgrades. But add all those up and by the time the iPhone 4S is two years old, it will be significantly more capable than the day you bought it. Will you be able to say the same for an S3 or One X?
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- 06-17-2012, 03:12 AM #46
There's also a reason I stopped at 4.5 inches. That is exactly the size needed to retain 330 ppi like was introduced on the 4 and 4S. At the time, the correct design choices were made on the 4 and 4S. I just sense we're in a different place right now. If Apple chooses to keep the 3.5 inch screen size, they are doing that as a market calculation, not to appease developers. You could make a 4.5 inch screen and have it fit in constraints very slightly larger than the current iPhone. That's the absolute limit. A 4.8 or 5.3 inch screen would need a rethink and not be worth the tradeoffs. There's no need to add ppi. On that point, I agree. Utilizing more of the space on the front of the device, however, is fair game. Indeed, the type of thing Jony Ive would do.
I am not sure this shouldn't be another separate product, however. I think the 3.5 isn't something that should be eliminated. What I don't know is how you handle what probably should happen - the elimination of the home button. I am thinking long and hard of the ramifications of this. I however would be game for a phone with no home button that uses the multitasking iPad gestures.
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