1. jrdatrackstar1223's Avatar
    I noticed that an app (OnSong) had a background activity of 4.4 hours (when I only used it for like 10 mins). My battery was horrible and I've noticed that it has been doing this recently (YouTube as well). I decided to swipe the apps away and do a hard reset (held Home + Power button until restart and Apple logo appears). I've noticed much better battery life today.

    From what I remember, Background App Refresh shouldn't really effect battery life, and you should also not have to worry about ending apps. However, I've noticed the opposite recently. Does anyone else have experience or insight on this? I am on 10.1.1, iPhone SE with the TSMC chip (if that matters).
    12-07-2016 10:11 AM
  2. MooMooPrincess's Avatar
    Background app refresh doesn't affect battery life (some people argue it does), I've generally only kept it on apps I use the most. I haven't actually turned it off completely to check. Now I do sometimes have to end apps but that's rare for me.
    12-07-2016 11:15 AM
  3. phlamethrowre's Avatar
    Background app refresh doesn't affect battery life (some people argue it does), I've generally only kept it on apps I use the most. I haven't actually turned it off completely to check. Now I do sometimes have to end apps but that's rare for me.
    So these "some people" would include the maker of the iPhone.

    12-07-2016 11:40 AM
  4. jrdatrackstar1223's Avatar
    Background app refresh doesn't affect battery life (some people argue it does), I've generally only kept it on apps I use the most. I haven't actually turned it off completely to check. Now I do sometimes have to end apps but that's rare for me.
    So these "some people" would include the maker of the iPhone.

    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...b65c1e3fed.jpg


    I think arguments can be made for both points, in that leaving BAR on leaves the door OPEN for apps to misbehave (thus Apple needing to include that), but that in GENERAL most people do not see a difference either way. I've gone days with it totally off and not noticed a difference (same for leaving it on). App updates could also effect how this works as well.

    One thing I do wonder about, however, is that even when I disable BAR switch for all apps (the one switch at the top in the screenshot), it appears BAR is still on for apps but greyed-out when clicking on the app in settings. For example, if BAR was "on" for an app (prior to me switching the master switch off), and I go to that app in Settings, it'll show BAR on for that app but greyed-out. Does that mean BAR is still on, or what...?
    12-07-2016 11:49 AM
  5. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    Apps run in the background whether Background App Refresh is on or not. BAR just helps the apps run in the background more efficiently, thus actually helping battery life. I keep it on for all my apps. As far as swiping apps out of multitasking, it can help. It depends on the app. Some have a tendency to go rogue and use a lot of battery. There's been times I swiped a few suspects out, then did a hard reset (reboot), then all was better. When I used said apps again, they performed better.
    12-07-2016 11:56 AM
  6. jrdatrackstar1223's Avatar
    Apps run in the background whether Background App Refresh is on or not. BAR just helps the apps run in the background more efficiently, thus actually helping battery life. I keep it on for all my apps. As far as swiping apps out of multitasking, it can help. It depends on the app. Some have a tendency to go rogue and use a lot of battery. There's been times I swiped a few suspects out, then did a hard reset (reboot), then all was better. When I used said apps again, they performed better.
    Your post is what caused me to do this and it seems to have helped lol
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    12-07-2016 11:58 AM
  7. phlamethrowre's Avatar
    Apps run in the background whether Background App Refresh is on or not. BAR just helps the apps run in the background more efficiently, thus actually helping battery life. I keep it on for all my apps. As far as swiping apps out of multitasking, it can help. It depends on the app. Some have a tendency to go rogue and use a lot of battery. There's been times I swiped a few suspects out, then did a hard reset (reboot), then all was better. When I used said apps again, they performed better.
    I'm gonna have to disagree. It's obvious when you open an app that is not set to refresh that it is still in the same condition as when you closed in the past. It updates when you open it. It's very obvious with social media apps since they are typically a timeline. What makes you say that apps refresh even if you have them set not to??
    12-07-2016 12:09 PM
  8. scruffypig's Avatar
    I noticed that an app (OnSong) had a background activity of 4.4 hours (when I only used it for like 10 mins). My battery was horrible and I've noticed that it has been doing this recently (YouTube as well). I decided to swipe the apps away and do a hard reset (held Home + Power button until restart and Apple logo appears). I've noticed much better battery life today.

    From what I remember, Background App Refresh shouldn't really effect battery life, and you should also not have to worry about ending apps. However, I've noticed the opposite recently. Does anyone else have experience or insight on this? I am on 10.1.1, iPhone SE with the TSMC chip (if that matters).
    Haven't really experienced a difference. Never heard of OnSong. I just leave my apps alone in the task switcher. My battery life is fine.
    12-07-2016 06:24 PM
  9. usmc8408's Avatar
    I have to agree with Apple and all the techies of the world......FINALLY!

    I think it's all a myth that killing apps and background refresh saves RAM. Depending on the app I don't think most people would notice a battery difference either.

    Resetting the phone may give you what appears to be a little while of "speed" but it's short lived.

    I had refresh on all apps, and didn't force close a single app for a week. I got up to 67 apps open in the background by the end of the week. Then for a week I turned off refresh and constantly killed apps.

    In the end I noticed nothing, nada, zip! It really is all in your head

    Just my 2 cents.
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    12-07-2016 06:38 PM
  10. si001's Avatar
    Apps refresh when you open them, you can see it every time. Even the web browser do it if you open more than 2 tabs. IOS is very good at killing what's in the background so the system is always running smoothly.
    12-07-2016 07:18 PM
  11. MrJizac's Avatar
    I have noticed that apps are far better developed than they used to be. Ever since iOS 9 and now 10.1.1 I haven't had any battery issues. In fact its the best I have ever had on a phone. Better than the Android devices thats for sure. The only battery drainer I would say would be the actual phone app when on the phone for periods of time. Other than that I go two days without having to charge my iPhone 7 Plus. Then again, I work for a carrier and get to demo phones all the time. That being said Apple devices are definitely the most reliable and optimized. Amazing OS and app development. I was going to mention if you are having battery issues to take the phone into and Apple store and ask them to reload the software on your phone. This will wipe everything, however having everything in the cloud now a days, it makes reloading your phone with your info way easier. I did this once (rather than using iTunes) and the phone has been running incredibly well.
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    12-07-2016 09:43 PM
  12. jrdatrackstar1223's Avatar
    I have noticed that apps are far better developed than they used to be. Ever since iOS 9 and now 10.1.1 I haven't had any battery issues. In fact its the best I have ever had on a phone. Better than the Android devices thats for sure. The only battery drainer I would say would be the actual phone app when on the phone for periods of time. Other than that I go two days without having to charge my iPhone 7 Plus. Then again, I work for a carrier and get to demo phones all the time. That being said Apple devices are definitely the most reliable and optimized. Amazing OS and app development. I was going to mention if you are having battery issues to take the phone into and Apple store and ask them to reload the software on your phone. This will wipe everything, however having everything in the cloud now a days, it makes reloading your phone with your info way easier. I did this once (rather than using iTunes) and the phone has been running incredibly well.
    I would do that, the problem is my Apple Pay gets reset everytime I do a wipe like that. Sometimes it automatically authenticates itself, sometimes it doesn't, resulting in me having to call my bank. Because I have had to do this so many times, they're reluctant to approve the card on my phone so I refrain from hard resets from now on (Old National Bank sucks).
    12-08-2016 09:38 AM
  13. HBLEY's Avatar
    Did it really work? I have tried the same thing with my iPhone 6s, battery problem is still annoying me!
    12-09-2016 01:10 AM
  14. HBLEY's Avatar
    The main issue with my phone is when it's at 40% or 30% and I am using 4GLte and open any app at that time for example Snapchat, my phone shuts down. And when I open it again using power button it says battery's drain (shows that logo when I need to plug-in it to charge).

    Any help?
    12-09-2016 01:15 AM
  15. doogald's Avatar
    The main issue with my phone is when it's at 40% or 30% and I am using 4GLte and open any app at that time for example Snapchat, my phone shuts down. And when I open it again using power button it says battery's drain (shows that logo when I need to plug-in it to charge).

    Any help?
    Is it an iPhone 6s that you bought in September or October last year? If yes, then there is a repair program for the battery right now.

    https://www.apple.com/support/iphone...ectedshutdown/

    You can check your serial number at that link to see if your phone is eligible for this program.

    If that's not it, you may want to call Apple Care or bring it to the Genius Bar for diagnostics on the battery.
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    12-09-2016 06:52 AM
  16. muchospanish's Avatar
    So these "some people" would include the maker of the iPhone.

    http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...b65c1e3fed.jpg
    There was also the issue of Facebook leaving something running that ran down the battery...
    12-15-2016 05:28 AM
  17. Sherry_B's Avatar
    Don't bother swiping apps. Those stay in a suspended state until you go back in to use them again. They do not use any system resources nor are they actively in use while suspended, but allowing them to run in the background lets them check for information updates. If you run across a rogue app eating battery while suspended then submit a bug report to the app developer. The dev cannot fix the issue if you don't report it.

    Allow the OS to operate the way it is intended to run, and report rogue apps that eat too much battery.
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    12-15-2016 09:49 AM
  18. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    The main issue with my phone is when it's at 40% or 30% and I am using 4GLte and open any app at that time for example Snapchat, my phone shuts down. And when I open it again using power button it says battery's drain (shows that logo when I need to plug-in it to charge).

    Any help?
    If it's not 6s related, then it sounds like the battery is going bad. That's how they do when on their last leg. When my old 5 did that way, it was the camera. I'd get to 30% or 40%, then take a picture, and it would shut off.
    12-15-2016 10:00 AM
  19. Trooper27's Avatar
    I swipe apps away all the time. I am an addict. Please help.
    12-15-2016 02:01 PM
  20. tsparks1's Avatar
    Don't bother swiping apps. Those stay in a suspended state until you go back in to use them again. They do not use any system resources nor are they actively in use while suspended, but allowing them to run in the background lets them check for information updates. If you run across a rogue app eating battery while suspended then submit a bug report to the app developer. The dev cannot fix the issue if you don't report it.

    Allow the OS to operate the way it is intended to run, and report rogue apps that eat too much battery.
    This is how I understand it also.
    12-16-2016 04:29 PM
  21. metalchick719's Avatar
    I keep certain apps open at all times (normally those I regularly use), and I don't notice any remarkable difference in battery life. I used to religiously close out all of them (especially back when I used my iPhone 4), but it doesn't change battery life, IMO.
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    12-16-2016 07:59 PM
  22. AppleKarma's Avatar
    I still have my old but trusty iPhone 4... and if I close all aps the batery lasts MUCH longer! On my iPad Air it is a small difference, but it is there, so from my experinece I will keep closing them because it does matter for the battery.
    12-17-2016 02:29 AM
  23. jrdatrackstar1223's Avatar
    Interesting...so many different responses. I feel the overwhelming majority says "it doesn't matter"..? Maybe I should make a poll lol
    12-17-2016 06:53 AM
  24. Wotchered's Avatar
    I close all apps, webpages and delete history regularly, often every day. Not for battery life although it seems to help, but for the small increase in speed that I gain. Somebody else in this thread mentioned that this fix is short lived, that's why I do it so regularly !
    As for sleeping apps using no power, I believe that apps self activate at intervals to check for connectivity etc ( and probably to report in) and I read somewhere that an awakened app can stay active for 10 minutes after doing what they do until the device puts them back to sleep. Sooo... must be using power to some degree but as I have cables,chargers etc I don't care so much. That said I've just put a new battery in my 4s so maybe I do care a bit !!
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    12-17-2016 07:26 AM
  25. nikkisharif's Avatar
    I don't think it affects it unless you have a rogue app. I've never been one to worry about closing my apps. Sometimes I do, most times I don't. Battery life is still good
    12-17-2016 08:07 AM
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